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okcrv6a(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price. 

  

 I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters are a great safety tool.  

  

  Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)  to get on the list.  Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.

  

 Kurt

 www.bisonmountainbags.com

 bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)

  



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msausen

Joined: 25 Oct 2007
Posts: 559
Location: Appleton, WI USA

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

What model? I can get this one from Amazon for $115…  

   

http://www.amazon.com/SPO-Medical-903036-Check-Oximeter/dp/B000BQKH9W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1221337931&sr=1-1  

   

do not archive  

     

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of K Klewin

 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:36 PM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?  

  

              

If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes   safely I have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate   Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these   for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.    

      

    

      

I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these   Pulse Oximeters are a great safety tool.     

      

    

      

 Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)  to   get on the list.  Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html      We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.   

      

    

      

Kurt   

      

www.bisonmountainbags.com   

      

bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)   

      

    

        

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

<http://sedationresource.com/pilot.pdf>

 

 Has pulse oximeters much cheaper.

 

 K Klewin wrote: [quote]                                 If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price. 

          

         I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters are a great safety tool.  

          

          Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)  to get on the list.  Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.

          

         Kurt

         www.bisonmountainbags.com

         bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)

          

                           

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I purchased the Checkmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group required.  Zero sales tax, $10.00 shipping.   

   

Robin  

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From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of K Klewin

 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?  

  

              

If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes   safely I have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate   Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these   for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.    

      

    

      

I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these   Pulse Oximeters are a great safety tool.     

      

    

      

 Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)  to   get on the list.  Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html      We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.   

      

    

      

Kurt   

      

www.bisonmountainbags.com   

      

bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)   

      

    

        

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aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

On another aviation list they have been discussing cheap pulse 

oximeters. Here's a link to two of them. One is $58 and one is $69. I 

haven't tried either of them so I can't say they're better than the deal 

you can get from Kurt. But you can't beat the price.



http://www.portablenebs.com/ascent.htm

http://sedationresource.com/pilot.pdf



Henry H.

RV-7 N79994 (borrowed from time to time)



K Klewin wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I 

 have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate 

 Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get 

 these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price. 

  

 I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters 

 are a great safety tool. 

  

  Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com 

 <mailto:bisonmountain(at)gmail.com>  to get on the list.  Link to our 

 pulse oximeter webpage:  

 http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of 

 other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.

  

 Kurt

 www.bisonmountainbags.com <http://www.bisonmountainbags.com>

 bisonmountain(at)gmail.com <mailto:bisonmountain(at)gmail.com>

  

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okcrv6a(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

I would guess there are some cheaper models out there.  I would also surmise that larger distributerships probably get a better price than I currently receive.  If you can find them cheaper (with case) I say buy it...I'm an RV'r.....I know how we all shop around for the best deal.....avgas is expensive...I sure don't blame anyone at all.   

  

 Thanks to those who have visited our site.  We have had a great year with our RV Flight Bags and will have a few more new bags online in the next few months.  Thanks for passing the word.

  

 Happy Building/Flying...

  

 Cheers,

  

 Kurt 

 www.bisonmountainbags.com

 bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)

 



--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Henry <aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net> wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  From: Henry <aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net>

Subject: Re: Fly above 8000 ft ?

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:42 PM



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		  --> RV-List message posted by: Henry <aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net>



On another aviation list they have been discussing cheap pulse 

oximeters. Here's a link to two of them. One is $58 and one is $69. I 

haven't tried either of them so I can't say they're better than the

deal 

you can get from Kurt. But you can't beat the price.



http://www.portablenebs.com/ascent.htm

http://sedationresource.com/pilot.pdf



Henry H.

RV-7 N79994 (borrowed from time to time)



K Klewin wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I 

 have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate 

 Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get 

 these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price. 

  

 I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters 

 are a great safety tool. 

  

  Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com 

 <mailto:bisonmountain(at)gmail.com>  to get on the list.  Link to our 

 pulse oximeter webpage:  

 http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of 

 other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.

  

 Kurt

 www.bisonmountainbags.com <http://www.bisonmountainbags.com>

 bisonmountain(at)gmail.com <mailto:bisonmountain(at)gmail.com>

  

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

Be careful about one thing- the batteries they take.  I have a SPO medical pule ox that I use in the office and in the RV.  I got a good deal on it, but found the lithium battery does not last the claimed 1000 readings, and in 1/2AA size, is  twenty dollars a pop to replace.  Get one that uses AAA's or similar inexpensive battery.

 

Bill B



On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:05 PM, K Klewin <okcrv6a(at)yahoo.com (okcrv6a(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]  I would guess there are some cheaper models out there.  I would also surmise that larger distributerships probably get a better price than I currently receive.  If you can find them cheaper (with case) I say buy it...I'm an RV'r.....I know how we all shop around for the best deal.....avgas is expensive...I sure don't blame anyone at all.   

   

 Thanks to those who have visited our site.  We have had a great year with our RV Flight Bags and will have a few more new bags online in the next few months.  Thanks for passing the word.

  

 Happy Building/Flying...

  

 Cheers,

  

 Kurt 

 www.bisonmountainbags.com

 bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)

 

--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Henry <aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net (aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net)> wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  From: Henry <aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net (aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net)>

Subject: Re: Fly above 8000 ft ? 

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)



Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:42 PM

 	  Quote: 	
		  --> RV-List message posted by: Henry <aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net (aeroncadoc(at)comcast.net)>



On another aviation list they have been discussing cheap pulse 

oximeters. Here's a link to two of them. One is $58 and one is $69. I 

haven't tried either of them so I can't say they're better than the

deal 

you can get from Kurt. But you can't beat the price.



http://www.portablenebs.com/ascent.htm

http://sedationresource.com/pilot.pdf



Henry H.

RV-7 N79994 (borrowed from time to time)



K Klewin wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I 

 have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate 

 Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get 

 these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price. 

  

 I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters 

 are a great safety tool. 

  

  Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com) 

 <mailto:bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)>  to get on the list.  Link to our 

 pulse oximeter webpage:  

 http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of 

 other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.

  

 Kurt

 www.bisonmountainbags.com <http://www.bisonmountainbags.com>

 bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com) <mailto:bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)>

  

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robertrv607(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

I would like to know the reason and benefit of this tool.....? Why?

 If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common sense, is to use Oxigen

 no?  I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood needs more Oxigen..

  

 Another expense  for what... Am I missing something here??

  

 Bert



--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com> wrote:



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		  From: Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com>

Subject: RE: Fly above 8000 ft ?

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 5:55 PM



       

I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I purchased the Checkmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group required.  Zero sales tax, $10.00 shipping. 

 

 

 

Robin

 

Do Not Archive

 

 

  

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of K Klewin

Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?



 

 

      

If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price. 



  

 



  

I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters are a great safety tool.  



  

 



  

 Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)  to get on the list.  Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks.



  

 



  

Kurt



  

www.bisonmountainbags.com



  

bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)



  

 



 

 

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kahuna

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

Its a tool to tell you IF you need it, and IF its working, how well its working, and if you need to administer more or less oxygen.

 This is a safety of flight device for flight in the over 10k ranges.

 I use mine all the time. Pulse/x is a very good measure of things.

 Best,

 Mike

 

 

 

 

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 If one is going to fly above 8000, or 10,...the common sense, is to use Oxigen

 no?  I do not need to have a tool that tells me my Blood needs more Oxigen..

  

 Another expense  for what... Am I missing something here??

  

 Bert

 

 --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com> wrote:

 From: Robin Marks <robin1(at)mrmoisture.com>

 Subject: RE: Fly above 8000 ft ?

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 5:55 PM

  

I think this is a repeat of a thread from ~9 months ago. I purchased the Checkmate on ebay for $99.00 new, no group required.  Zero sales tax, $10.00 shipping.  

  

Robin  

Do Not Archive  

   

From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of K Klewin

 Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:36 AM

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Fly above 8000 ft ? 

  

 

   If you do and are interested in flying at higher altitudes safely I have been offered a great discount from our supplier on Checkmate Pulse Oximeters.  If enough folks (5-10) are interested we can get these for $119.95.  Sportys sells these for $169 so its a great price.  

  

I had my 6A up to 19,000 ft a few weeks ago and these Pulse Oximeters are a great safety tool.   

  

 Email me at:  bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com)  to get on the list.  Link to our pulse oximeter webpage:  http://www.bisonmountainbags.com/checkmate.html    We have lots of other cool RV stuff if you have time to visit.  Thanks. 

  

Kurt 

www.bisonmountainbags.com 

bisonmountain(at)gmail.com (bisonmountain(at)gmail.com) 

    

    

  

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rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really good shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k. 

 

 

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

Also tells you if merely deeper breathing is working to increase your oxygenation.  It often helps enough, more than you'd think.



Bill B



On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:27 PM, scott bilinski <rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com (rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

 [quote]Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really good shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k. 

 

 

Scott  



 





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robertrv607(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

+

 scott:  Thanks   but you did not answer my question,  I know what you said...

but  why to have a machine to tell you that you need Oxigen....It has been written

 for decades, and that is a fact,  that one must use Oxigen 10,000 and above,  but

 but,, it is proven that you will be wise to use Oxigen, even  at 5,000 regardless,

 it will refresh you and make you  more alert on those long trips....

  

 So if the person has the Oxi moron,, and it tells him,,, yes you need Oxigen,,then

 what... look for the cylinders, and connect the thing...?

  

 what if the Oxi moron, tells you,, you do not need Oxigen,, you are at 14,000

 now,, OH well I do not need Oxigen,,,,

 nothing of this make sense to me...

  

 Bert

  

 

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 [quote]From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: Fly above 8000 ft ?

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:27 PM



    Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really good shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k.  

 

 

Scott  



 

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

Bert, oxygen is not simply "on" or "off;" it comes in quantities (liters per minute), and it's fairly expensive.  If you are running low on oxygen during a flight where it is called for, it is a precious commodity.  Therefore, it is helpful to have a device that tells the pilot how much oxygen is required, so that only this much is used and no more.  There is no way to tell by subjective feelings whether the amount of oxygen flow selected is enough, too much, or too little.  Only an objective measurement can allow for precise dosing.  The only safe alternative to pulse oximetry in flight is to run oxygen flows at much higher rates that are truly needed, just to cover all possibilities.  This is wasteful, and can exhaust your oxygen cylinder just when you need it most.

 

Helpful?



Bill B



On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:29 PM, bert murillo <robertrv607(at)yahoo.com (robertrv607(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]  +

 scott:  Thanks   but you did not answer my question,  I know what you said...

but  why to have a machine to tell you that you need Oxigen....It has been written

 for decades, and that is a fact,  that one must use Oxigen 10,000 and above,  but

 but,, it is proven that you will be wise to use Oxigen, even  at 5,000 regardless,

 it will refresh you and make you  more alert on those long trips....

  

 So if the person has the Oxi moron,, and it tells him,,, yes you need Oxigen,,then

 what... look for the cylinders, and connect the thing...?

  

 what if the Oxi moron, tells you,, you do not need Oxigen,, you are at 14,000

 now,, OH well I do not need Oxigen,,,,

 nothing of this make sense to me...

  

 Bert

  

 

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, scott bilinski <rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com (rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:



 [quote]From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com (rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com)>

Subject: Re: Fly above 8000 ft ?

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:27 PM



    Different people react differently to altitude. I know one woman pilot who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are other people who are in really good shape and they dont need Ox until 11~12k.  

 

 

Scott  



 

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rhdudley1(at)bellsouth.ne
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

Hi Bert,

  

 I think that the point is that, even if you are  using oxygen, a device that measures the oxygen saturation in your blood will  tell you that you are receiving ENOUGH oxygen and that your oxygen equipment is  working correctly - OR, you are not getting ENOUGH. Possibly increase the flow  or as somone said: "take deeper breaths" to assimilate more oxygen. It would be  too bad if you go merrily along with the oxygen flowing and not know that you  are not getting enough for sufficient oxygen saturation. Measuring the oxygen  saturation could give you the confidence that you are OK.

  

 Regards,

  

 Rich Dudley

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chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

Bert,

 The real value of a Pulse Oximeter is that it allows you to reduce the amount of oxygen flowing to the minimum needed for complete oxygenation of your blood. That way your tanks will last longer.

 FYI, if you are over 40, best start using oxygen above 8,000 feet.

Charlie Kuss

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, bert murillo <robertrv607(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



[quote] From: bert murillo <robertrv607(at)yahoo.com>

 Subject: Re: Fly above 8000 ft ?

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:29 PM

 +

 scott:  Thanks   but you did not answer my question,  I

 know what you said...

 but  why to have a machine to tell you that you need

 Oxigen....It has been written

 for decades, and that is a fact,  that one must use Oxigen

 10,000 and above,  but

 but,, it is proven that you will be wise to use Oxigen,

 even  at 5,000 regardless,

 it will refresh you and make you  more alert on those long

 trips....

  

 So if the person has the Oxi moron,, and it tells him,,,

 yes you need Oxigen,,then

 what... look for the cylinders, and connect the thing...?

  

 what if the Oxi moron, tells you,, you do not need Oxigen,,

 you are at 14,000

 now,, OH well I do not need Oxigen,,,,

 nothing of this make sense to me...

  

 Bert

  

 

 --- On Tue, 9/16/08, scott bilinski

 <rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 From: scott bilinski <rv8a2001(at)yahoo.com>

 Subject: Re: Fly above 8000 ft ?

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:27 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 Different people react differently to altitude. I know one

 woman pilot who needs oxygen above 8,000. Then there are

 other people who are in really good shape and they dont need

 Ox until 11~12k. 

 

 

  Scott 

 

 

 

 

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Charles Heathco

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 201

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

I routinly fly above 12500 for long periods, much  higher even, till have to come down for gas, Im one of those reare ones that  need less oxy I suppose. Charlie h

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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

How would you know?  Hypoxemic impairment is transparent to the sufferer.  You will be the last to know that your O2 levels are too low, absent a pulse oximeter.



Bill B



 On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Charles Heathco <cheathco(at)cox.net (cheathco(at)cox.net)> wrote:

[quote]        I routinly fly above 12500 for long periods, much  higher even, till have to come down for gas, Im one of those reare ones that  need less oxy I suppose. Charlie h

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robin1(at)mrmoisture.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

I pulled out my monitor last night when I saw that 90% number. Mine tested at 98% and sadly it has been a long time since I have done serious aerobic exercise. I looked up a number of sources that had acceptable levels down to 90% as borderline but I would suggest having a professional review your numbers based on accurate equipment.  

   

Robin  

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chaskuss(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

One simple test is to fly right seat. Have the pilot call out a point on the sectional map and see how long it takes you to find it at 10,000 feet. Go on oxygen, wait 3 minutes and try to find another point on the map. My location time dropped by 67% on oxygen. As Bill mentions, you don't realize how impaired you are until you perform a repeatable test.

Charlie Kuss

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   From: Bill Boyd <sportav8r(at)gmail.com>

 Subject: Re: Fly above 8000 ft ?

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 2:02 PM

 How would you know?  Hypoxemic impairment is transparent to

 the sufferer.

 You will be the last to know that your O2 levels are too

 low, absent a pulse

 oximeter.

 Bill B

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Charles Heathco

 <cheathco(at)cox.net> wrote:

 >  I routinly fly above 12500 for long periods, much

 higher even, till have

 > to come down for gas, Im one of those reare ones that

 need less oxy I

 > suppose. Charlie h

 >

 > *

 >

 > *

 >

 >

tcone1(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Fly above 8000 ft ?

I hate to be the one to suggest something as basic as training, but...



You can, and I feel should, avail yourself of the altitude chamber training 

that the FAA provides.



http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airman_education/aerospace_physiology/



I know that people "feel fine"...wouldn't it be better to expand your 

knowledge base?



Tim

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