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		tutuzulu(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:34 am    Post subject: MicroAir antenna | 
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				My quarter-wave antenna has delrin bushings to insulate the antenna
 from the airframe, and Aeroelectric Connection states the antenna
 should be insulated from the airframe.
 
 Yet, the manual for my MicroAir 760 radio says  "For metal skin
 aircraft....ensure that the antenna base and the coax shield are
 firmly grounded to the skin of the aircraft.  Ensure that any
 anti-corrosion product, which may be used to seal the exterior
 surface, does not isolate the antenna base from the airframe."
 
 Wouldn't this be the same as grounding the shield wire to the antenna?
 
 How have y'all done it?
 
 See you at Sun'nFun.
 
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 Bob Miller
 601HD  N722Z
 Charlottesville, Virginia
 
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				 Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: MicroAir antenna | 
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				A quarter wave whip antenna needs a good ground plane to operate
 effectively. The shield conductor on a quarter wave whip antenna must be
 grounded at both ends, on the antenna end it must be grounded to a good
 ground plane. Most manufactured antennas have a metal base that the outer
 shell of the antenna connector is attatched to. In order to ensure that the
 shield is grounded, this metal base must be grounded. The actual radiating
 element inside the antenna assembly is connected to the center conductor of
 the antenna cable and isolated from the shell. The radiating element must
 not be grounded.
 
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 Bryan Martin
 N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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  My quarter-wave antenna has delrin bushings to insulate the antenna
  from the airframe, and Aeroelectric Connection states the antenna
  should be insulated from the airframe.
  
  Yet, the manual for my MicroAir 760 radio says  "For metal skin
  aircraft....ensure that the antenna base and the coax shield are
  firmly grounded to the skin of the aircraft.  Ensure that any
  anti-corrosion product, which may be used to seal the exterior
  surface, does not isolate the antenna base from the airframe."
  
  Wouldn't this be the same as grounding the shield wire to the antenna?
  
  How have y'all done it?
  
  See you at Sun'nFun.
  
  --
  Bob Miller
  601HD  N722Z
  Charlottesville, Virginia
  
  
 
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		tutuzulu(at)gmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: MicroAir antenna | 
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				Bryan,
 I think this explains the discrepancy.  My antenna is a solid piece of
 stainless, no outer shell.   So I'll insulate this from the airframe,
 and ground the coax shield to the groundplane (i.e., the metal skin). 
 It was the least expensive antenna ACS offered, so we'll see how well
 it does.  It is similar to the "roll your own" that Aeroelectric
 recommends.
 Thanks,
 Bob
 
 On 3/19/06, Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net> wrote:
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  A quarter wave whip antenna needs a good ground plane to operate
  effectively. The shield conductor on a quarter wave whip antenna must be
  grounded at both ends, on the antenna end it must be grounded to a good
  ground plane. Most manufactured antennas have a metal base that the outer
  shell of the antenna connector is attatched to. In order to ensure that the
  shield is grounded, this metal base must be grounded. The actual radiating
  element inside the antenna assembly is connected to the center conductor of
  the antenna cable and isolated from the shell. The radiating element must
  not be grounded.
 
  --
  Bryan Martin
  N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
  do not archive.
  > 
  >
  > My quarter-wave antenna has delrin bushings to insulate the antenna
  > from the airframe, and Aeroelectric Connection states the antenna
  > should be insulated from the airframe.
  >
  > Yet, the manual for my MicroAir 760 radio says  "For metal skin
  > aircraft....ensure that the antenna base and the coax shield are
  > firmly grounded to the skin of the aircraft.  Ensure that any
  > anti-corrosion product, which may be used to seal the exterior
  > surface, does not isolate the antenna base from the airframe."
  >
  > Wouldn't this be the same as grounding the shield wire to the antenna?
  >
  > How have y'all done it?
  >
  > See you at Sun'nFun.
  >
  > --
  > Bob Miller
  > 601HD  N722Z
  > Charlottesville, Virginia
  >
  >
 
 
 
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 601HD  N722Z
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		ggower_99(at)yahoo.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: MicroAir antenna | 
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				Bob,
    
   That stainless steel antena comes with two pieces of insulate (cant remember if solid plastic or some kind of ceramic)  that insulates the antena from the airframe,  then also  has a piece of metal that touches the airframe where you conect the ground of the coaxial cable.  I have one of this, but installed in other ultralight several years ago, cant remeber exacty, but still working pefectly for about 10 years, as a permanent antena for my handheld radio.
    
   Saludos
   Gary Gower.
 
 Bob Miller <tutuzulu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
   
 
 Bryan,
 I think this explains the discrepancy. My antenna is a solid piece of
 stainless, no outer shell. So I'll insulate this from the airframe,
 and ground the coax shield to the groundplane (i.e., the metal skin). 
 It was the least expensive antenna ACS offered, so we'll see how well
 it does. It is similar to the "roll your own" that Aeroelectric
 recommends.
 Thanks,
 Bob
 
 On 3/19/06, Bryan Martin 
 wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  
  A quarter wave whip antenna needs a good ground plane to operate
  effectively. The shield conductor on a quarter wave whip antenna must be
  grounded at both ends, on the antenna end it must be grounded to a good
  ground plane. Most manufactured antennas have a metal base that the outer
  shell of the antenna connector is attatched to. In order to ensure that the
  shield is grounded, this metal base must be grounded. The actual radiating
  element inside the antenna assembly is connected to the center conductor of
  the antenna cable and isolated from the shell. The radiating element must
  not be grounded.
 
  --
  Bryan Martin
  N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
  do not archive.
  > 
  >
  > My quarter-wave antenna has delrin bushings to insulate the antenna
  > from the airframe, and Aeroelectric Connection states the antenna
  > should be insulated from the airframe.
  >
  > Yet, the manual for my MicroAir 760 radio says "For metal skin
  > aircraft....ensure that the antenna base and the coax shield are
  > firmly grounded to the skin of the aircraft. Ensure that any
  > anti-corrosion product, which may be used to seal the exterior
  > surface, does not isolate the antenna base from the airframe."
  >
  > Wouldn't this be the same as grounding the shield wire to the antenna?
  >
  > How have y'all done it?
  >
  > See you at Sun'nFun.
  >
  > --
  > Bob Miller
  > 601HD N722Z
  > Charlottesville, Virginia
  >
  >
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: MicroAir antenna | 
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				Bob,
    
   That stainless steel antena comes with two pieces of insulate (cant remember if solid plastic or some kind of ceramic)  that insulates the antena from the airframe,  then also  has a piece of metal that touches the airframe where you conect the ground of the coaxial cable.  I have one of this, but installed in other ultralight several years ago, cant remeber exacty, but still working pefectly for about 10 years, as a permanent antena for my handheld radio.  Is not expensive, but works great.
    
   Saludos
   Gary Gower.
 
 Bob Miller <tutuzulu(at)gmail.com> wrote:
   
 
 Bryan,
 I think this explains the discrepancy. My antenna is a solid piece of
 stainless, no outer shell. So I'll insulate this from the airframe,
 and ground the coax shield to the groundplane (i.e., the metal skin). 
 It was the least expensive antenna ACS offered, so we'll see how well
 it does. It is similar to the "roll your own" that Aeroelectric
 recommends.
 Thanks,
 Bob
 
 On 3/19/06, Bryan Martin 
 wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  
  A quarter wave whip antenna needs a good ground plane to operate
  effectively. The shield conductor on a quarter wave whip antenna must be
  grounded at both ends, on the antenna end it must be grounded to a good
  ground plane. Most manufactured antennas have a metal base that the outer
  shell of the antenna connector is attatched to. In order to ensure that the
  shield is grounded, this metal base must be grounded. The actual radiating
  element inside the antenna assembly is connected to the center conductor of
  the antenna cable and isolated from the shell. The radiating element must
  not be grounded.
 
  --
  Bryan Martin
  N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
  do not archive.
  > 
  >
  > My quarter-wave antenna has delrin bushings to insulate the antenna
  > from the airframe, and Aeroelectric Connection states the antenna
  > should be insulated from the airframe.
  >
  > Yet, the manual for my MicroAir 760 radio says "For metal skin
  > aircraft....ensure that the antenna base and the coax shield are
  > firmly grounded to the skin of the aircraft. Ensure that any
  > anti-corrosion product, which may be used to seal the exterior
  > surface, does not isolate the antenna base from the airframe."
  >
  > Wouldn't this be the same as grounding the shield wire to the antenna?
  >
  > How have y'all done it?
  >
  > See you at Sun'nFun.
  >
  > --
  > Bob Miller
  > 601HD N722Z
  > Charlottesville, Virginia
 		
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