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TELEDYNMCS(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: Pilot Relief Systems |
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In a message dated 11/28/2008 2:59:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, europa-list(at)matronics.com writes:
| Quote: | >>>>Going to that trouble, you might just do like the trains used to do, and
suck it outdoors! <<<<< |
Hi Greg,
Necessity is the mother of invention. Glider tasks for soaring badges and contests very often last well beyond bladder capacity for most pilots. Before anybody reinvents the wheel, check out this page from Wings and Wheels glider supply. http://wingsandwheels.com/page42.htm Scroll down towards the bottom for the info. It describes how to make a "pilot relief system" and has the parts available, save the external cathetor, which are usually available from any decent medical supply house. Size definitely matters with external cathetors, so it's probably best to let your wife pick out the correct size........
Glider pilots have also been using what are commonly referred to as "Polish Microphones" for this use and most come factory installed. These are essentially a round, tennis ball sized cup that is attached to the end of a hose which feeds to a hole in the bottom of the fuselage, usually directly below the seat pan. They do indeed dump overboard out a hole in the bottom of the fuselage.
Another cheaper alternative, and the one I prefer because it's much easier to use, is to tear out the absorbent material from a diaper. Put this material into a gallon sized freezer zip lock bag, Freezer bags are recommended because they are thicker and less prone to leaking. When nature calls, use the bag and the absorbent material will help prevent accidental leaks by trapping the liquid. The used bag can then be disposed of later when back on terra firma. You can also buy "portable restroom" bags, but they are cheaper to make from common items from the grocery store. These zip lock relief bags also make good "yak sacks" should a passenger ever offer you a "technicolor yawn".......
Hope it helps!
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
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jeff(at)rmmm.net
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: Pilot Relief Systems |
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John you have a great way of bringing fun to a standoff subject. I like
the tube Idea and I wonder if that simple shutoff valve could work with
the fuel injection line I use. I usually drain the tanks to change my
filters but I love that simple valve for 2 bucks shown on the same
page.
Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 180 hours and enjoying this plane more every
time I fly it.
On Nov 28, 2008, at 5:59 AM, TELEDYNMCS(at)aol.com wrote:
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In a message dated 11/28/2008 2:59:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
europa-list(at)matronics.com writes:
> >>>>Going to that trouble, you might just do like the trains used to
> do, and
> suck it outdoors! <<<<<
Hi Greg,
Necessity is the mother of invention. Glider tasks for soaring badges
and contests very often last well beyond bladder capacity for most
pilots. Before anybody reinvents the wheel, check out this page from
Wings and Wheels glider supply.
http://wingsandwheels.com/page42.htm Scroll down towards the bottom
for the info. It describes how to make a "pilot relief system" and has
the parts available, save the external cathetor, which are usually
available from any decent medical supply house. Size definitely
matters with external cathetors, so it's probably best to let your
wife pick out the correct size........
Glider pilots have also been using what are commonly referred to as
"Polish Microphones" for this use and most come factory installed.
These are essentially a round, tennis ball sized cup that is attached
to the end of a hose which feeds to a hole in the bottom of
the fuselage, usually directly below the seat pan. They do indeed
dump overboard out a hole in the bottom of the fuselage.
Another cheaper alternative, and the one I prefer because it's much
easier to use, is to tear out the absorbent material from a diaper.
Put this material into a gallon sized freezer zip lock bag, Freezer
bags are recommended because they are thicker and less prone to
leaking. When nature calls, use the bag and the absorbent material
will help prevent accidental leaks by trapping the liquid. The used
bag can then be disposed of later when back on terra firma. You can
also buy "portable restroom" bags, but they are cheaper to make from
common items from the grocery store. These zip lock relief bags also
make good "yak sacks" should a passenger ever offer you a "technicolor
yawn".......
Hope it helps!
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
Life should be easier.
So=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002">Try the NEW AOL.com.
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gregoryf.flyboy(at)comcas
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: Pilot Relief Systems |
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HaHa! So this is just a common thing, apparently. Lots of interesting responses in this thread. It is amazing what you can learn from this site. To increase the need to use a pilot relief system, and add more flight time, one can build in a wing tank. I haven’t looked at any CG numbers, but am half considering putting wing tanks in the XS wing rear of the wing spar. Even two smaller tanks, say 2-3 gallons each in 2 wells, in both wings, would add 8-12 gallons, or about 2-4 hours more flight time, at a cost of only about 24 – 36 lbs per wing. Fill could be provided by pump transfer from the main tank, hence no extra fuel cap needed.
Interesting food for thought….
Greg
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….. check out this page from Wings and Wheels glider supply. http://wingsandwheels.com/page42.htm It describes how to make a "pilot relief system" and has the parts available, save the external cathetor, which are usually available from any decent medical supply house. Size definitely matters with external cathetors, so it's probably best to let your wife pick out the correct size........
Hope it helps!
Regards,
John Lawton
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