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jkreidler



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Seat Belts Reply with quote

Time to get seat belts on order. During construction we have discussed using 5 point harnesses in the front and back. I like 5 point harnesses when the shoulder straps are not mounted to an inertia reel. The shoulder straps have a way of pulling the lap belt up into your stomach, the submarine strap helps hold the belts down low where they belong. I have spent alot of time in race cars actually using seat belts (sometimes it just seemed like the car would fit, huh). Needless to say proper seat belt placement really helps keep the black and blue where your body can best deal with it. Enough about that , sorry to digress but I know the first question I will get is "why 5 point harnesses?".

I don't think making an anchor for the front submarine strap will be a problem, but need help in determining what belts to buy. Vans has said that I could use the same 4 point belts for the front seats in the rear seats. Does this mean that I can use the 5 point belts for the rear seats in the front? Are the shoulder belts anchored the same way? Would 5 point belts from an 8 or 4 work?

Thanks, Jason Kreidler


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Seat Belts Reply with quote

" I like 5 point harnesses when the shoulder straps are not mounted to an
inertia reel. "

I went with inertia reels and removed the 5 point from the back seat...see
attached picture.

http://www.inertialbelts.com/
I know...not much help with what you are asking, but I do like my belts.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Seat Belts Reply with quote

It's been a while but I remember that Van's harnesses are all the same,
front or rear. So yes you can use the 5-point for the front and vice
versa. If you can find a way to add anchor tabs in the front like the ones
in the rear, it should work.
Anh
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Time to get seat belts on order. During construction we have discussed
using 5 point harnesses in the front and back. I like 5 point harnesses
when the shoulder straps are not mounted to an inertia reel. The shoulder
straps have a way of pulling the lap belt up into your stomach, the
submarine strap helps hold the belts down low where they belong. I have
spent alot of time in race cars actually using seat belts (sometimes it
just seemed like the car would fit, huh). Needless to say proper seat
belt placement really helps keep the black and blue where your body can
best deal with it. Enough about that , sorry to digress but I know the
first question I will get is "why 5 point harnesses?".

I don't think making an anchor for the front submarine strap will be a
problem, but need help in determining what belts to buy. Vans has said
that I could use the same 4 point belts for the front seats in the rear
seats. Does this mean that I can use the 5 point belts for the rear seats
in the front? Are the shoulder belts anchored the same way? Would 5
point belts from an 8 or 4 work?

Thanks, Jason Kreidler

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: Seat Belts Reply with quote

how difficult is it to 'retro' fit inertial reels to front seats on flying plane??lbb

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Seat Belts Reply with quote

If you look at the procedures on www.inertialbelts.com, you will need to
create the four hardpoints each belt from the outside of the lid. We used a
cutter inside to cut the inner glass and remove the foam; then we reinforced
the lid with additional layers of glass. This would have to be accomplished
from the outside. If you wish to discuss how to do this, give me a call
480-626-4048. Obviously this will create some need for re paint if the paint
is already on the aircraft.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Seat Belts Reply with quote

Hooker Harness makes an inertial real that mounts with a single bolt, it
does require a bushing to adapt to Van's bolt/screw, but they can supply:

http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2049%20Seats%20&%20Seat%20Belts/slides/DSC06413.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2049%20Seats%20&%20Seat%20Belts/slides/DSC06415.html
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how difficult is it to 'retro' fit inertial reels to front seats on flying plane??lbb

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Seat Belts Reply with quote

You will probably have to send in your existing belts to have the reels put on if the original manufacturer offers them. That's assuming there is enough slack to use reels. If you have Hooker belts right now the easiest thing to do would be to order the same belts again but with the reels this time and then sell your existing belts.

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