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In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment Reply with quote

One importantthing about BRS or any other emergency chute (or any other man made artifact) is that they are not 100% reliable, too much Murphy chances to fail.

My point is that, they should be treated only as a "very last chance" safety possibility.

What I mean is that I have hear and read comments about pilots (most novice or non flyers yet) that think that they can get in "some" trouble ("Mild Combat acrobatic manuvers" to give them a name) or take chances with almost IFR weather, because they have a BRS.

Nothing more far from reality, Experience (if they have the chance to get some) will show them that a good pilot will avoid structural danger manuvers and bad weather as rattle snakes...

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Gary Gower.
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From: PatrickW <pwhoyt(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy
To: zenith601-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

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Sabrina wrote:
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Sky Catcher BRS failure

Any details on how it failed? Did it not deploy? Or get snagged on something?

Thanks,

- Pat

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment Reply with quote

Gary you are so right. I have a BRS installed in my 601XL and it terrifies me to think that I would actually pull it! I mean there is a solid fuel rocket right behind my head that is bigger than any hobby rocket I could imagine shooting up in the air! Then there is the fact that it has not been tested in the exact configuration the way I installed it. I do, however keep the safety pin pulled when I fly.

Yes, Gary - right on. The very LAST resort. One other scary thing- when I was sitting in my garage a long time ago just after installing the handle (no rocket) I was imagining I was in trouble and trying to see what it would be like to actually pull the handle, so I got myself all worked up and convinced that I was going down and I reached down and gave it a yank and almost pulled my wrist out of joint - I hadn't removed the pin! A simple mistake and my fictitious save didn't happen!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment Reply with quote

My original - and perhaps too brief - question was pertaining to the actual failure mode of the BRS.

We hear all about the BRS "saves". I have not heard much about any BRS failures, and it is those that we who are installing BRS's should examine.

I am in the process of installing a BRS in my XL, and am trying to do everything I can up front to stack the odds in my favor in the unlikely event that I or a passenger would ever have to pull that handle.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: In-flight opening of front hinged canopy. BRS Comment Reply with quote

PatrickW wrote:
My original - and perhaps too brief - question was pertaining to the actual failure mode of the BRS.

We hear all about the BRS "saves". I have not heard much about any BRS failures, and it is those that we who are installing BRS's should examine.

I am in the process of installing a BRS in my XL, and am trying to do everything I can up front to stack the odds in my favor in the unlikely event that I or a passenger would ever have to pull that handle.

- Patrick


Patrick if you are talking about the Skycatcher failure. First the plane was in a flat spin. Second there was some talk that the BRS was not properly mounted. Remember this was a prototype plane not a production version.


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