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 Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: Open canopy accident. Also in case of engine out landings. |
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Hello Roger (and list),
I just want to add a little advise (personal experience 3 engine out landings with 2 cycle engines in previos "Fat Ultralighs", (in one case was fuel finished, with 45 mph head wind, 60 mph cruise, no way to make it to destination, to high the mountains around to return, "Gethomeitis").
All of us get nervous when "gliding" without engine (cant imagine a pilot in a Pitts).
This feeling is perfectly normal, even to "Rambo" and Swecheneger (what ever is the spelling:-).
The more we get close to the land (and the rougher it looks) the more nervous we start feeling. Fight this attitude, you can make it.
Please dont level and/or flare too high, fight this instict, or the plane will stall and there is where the control looses and G's increase.. This is a mayor statistical cause of severe damage and death.
Also dont think on saving the airplane (it happens "all this years and money sindrome"), will make you stall it and the damage will be worse... Fly it to the ground even if it looks (from the cabin) like a Kamikase pilot 
Practice emergencies and if possible take a few hours in Gliders, Yes they have better LD and spoilers, but is a good training.
Hope this helps
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Here we have a local Club named (translated) "Survivors of Engine Out Landings Club".
I am a 3 star member (with 3 landings).
We say is So Exclusive that we Dont Want any new members in it
Our Motto: "Fly Safe, Preflight and Mantain your airplane properly".
--- On Sun, 1/11/09, Roger & Lina Hill <hills(at)sunflower.com> wrote:
| Quote: | From: Roger & Lina Hill <hills(at)sunflower.com>
Subject: RE: Open canopy accident
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 2:10 PM
Jay;
Being a fellow survivor of a forced landing after my new prop broke off my 601, I can understand what you are saying and I have to agree with your advice to stay calm and fly the plane. And that’s not just my opinion either, as I noticed a statistic (while reading Stick and Rudder) that about 75% of the time, when a pilot is killed in a forced landing it is because of LOSS OF CONTROL. What ????? Yes that’s right, the pilot dies because he losses control of the plane. It’s that simple. Don’t’ loose control, and you probably wont’ die, you will just land like us.
My advice to all of you is to practice power off landings, get use to flying with no power, keeping the speed up and the noise down and don’t make any radical wing banks or quick panicky stick movements. Just work the problem and fly the plane. It sounds simple, but until you have lost power and are coming down, you probably don’t know how hard it is to keep your head on flying and not on what might happen to you when you touch the ground. Force landings are something you can train for, so do it and don’t just stick your head in the sand and say; it won’t happen to me.
(You might also try flying a combat flight simulator, there is nothing like being shot down 1000 times…..)
Finally, Jay and I survived, and so can you, just fly the plane and get it into your head that your going down, so accept it and just fly the plane and if you DON’T’ loose control of your self, and the plane, your probably going to be fine.
Roger Hill
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of jaybannist(at)cs.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:44 AM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Open canopy accident
Friends,
I have been flying about thirty years. I have survived four engine stoppages, two on takeoff, one a broken crank at cruise; and a crash. I didn’t just fall off a turnip truck. Believe me, when you are faced with death, you are not thinking about what a Monday morning peer review might say about your performance. You are intent on saving your life. You do not analyze the situation. You react in whatever manner and with whatever methods you have at your disposal. Your survival instinct and training are your only resources. Facing death is not an academic experience. It is purely visceral.
If your canopy pops open in flight, it will be a different situation and a different experience from mine. It is not something you can train for. Other than “stay calm and fly the airplane”, NO ONE can tell you what to do or how to react. You are on your own. It is YOUR life and YOU will determine the outcome.
So, please. No more advise. No more second guessing. None of you were in that cockpit with me so you can't possibly know what I faced. It is over and I did the right thing. I AM ALIVE.
Jay Bannister
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