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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox/Weather/Oshkosh |
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Just gettin' ready for sack time, Gary. I went down to the hangar to
see if the snow/ice had melted off the skis and brakes after a slushy
landing and takeoff on a lake...more later if anybody's interested in
hearing of stupidity while flying...and fog was beginning to form due
to a fast temp drop after a warm day. All this to say I won't be
getting out of here real early for my trip to Oshkosh tomorrow if
this fog becomes real thick.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying
do not archive
On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:43 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:
| Quote: |
Love that sense of humour! Why are you still up?
Gary Algate
SMC, Exploration
Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
this message by persons or entities other than the intended
recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error,
kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
“This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail, we
have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
and happy Christmas".
Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
23/01/2009 01:07 PM
Please respond to
kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
To
kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
cc
Subject
Re: Re: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox
Hey, we've missed you Luis....it's not like this all the time...why,
just last week we were all enjoying talking about tailwheels, or
maybe that was just me enjoying it, while some others suffered. : )
If you're still tuned in, some of us are also "flying weekly" if not
daily. Why not tell us about some of your flying adventures...that
seems to be the hot topic.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying
do not archive
On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:56 PM, wingnut wrote:
>
<wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>
>
> Wow. Posts like this are the reason I stopped reading this forum. I
> poke in once in three months and I'm not disappointed. Glad to know
> I'm not missing much. Thanks!
>
>
>> You are very wrong about that AKFlyer, the short wing Pipers have
>> a horrible reputation, and rightfully so. There is a really good
>> reason manufacturers of modern airplanes have not imitated these
>> short winged Pipers, and why the short winged pipers have not been
>> produced in many many years and have never been copied ( Unlike
>> the Piper Cub ). So despite your " Flawed Reasoning " and somewhat
>> appealing an nostalgic post relating to old pipers, what you say
>> is just bad information. I would hope most people here are smart
>> enough to realize bad information even when it is presented by
>> some slick, smoothing talking, snake oil salesman.
>>
>> Given aerodynamic information available these days, it is a really
>> bad idea to clip the wings that short. Just look at the wingspans
>> of most modern Light Sport Aircraft today, their wings have a
>> pretty high aspect ratio, there is a very good reason for that.
>
>
> --------
> Luis Rodriguez
> Model IV 1200
> Rotax 912UL
> Flying Weekly
> Laurens, SC (34A)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 26271#226271
>
>
>
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox/Weather/Oshkosh |
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Lynn C If for some reason you need to put down in Rockford at 1C8 C Cottonwood airport ( I think we have plenty of snow still) feel free to give me a call. You are welcome to stay over night at my place. 630-292 6117 is my cell phone.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford C IL
[quote] From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox/Weather/Oshkosh
Date: Thu C 22 Jan 2009 22:29:35 -0500
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
Just gettin' ready for sack time C Gary. I went down to the hangar to
see if the snow/ice had melted off the skis and brakes after a slushy
landing and takeoff on a lake...more later if anybody's interested in
hearing of stupidity while flying...and fog was beginning to form due
to a fast temp drop after a warm day. All this to say I won't be
getting out of here real early for my trip to Oshkosh tomorrow if
this fog becomes real thick.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying
do not archive
On Jan 22 C 2009 C at 9:43 PM C gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:
>
> Love that sense of humour! Why are you still up?
>
> Gary Algate
> SMC C Exploration
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
>
> This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
> addressees. Any review C dissemination C distribution C or copying of
> this message by persons or entities other than the intended
> recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error C
> kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
> message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
> any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
> “This year C instead of sending you a Christmas card in the mail C we
> have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
> and happy Christmas".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
> 23/01/2009 01:07 PM
> Please respond to
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
> To
> kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> cc
> Subject
> Re: Re: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox
>
>
>
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
>
> Hey C we've missed you Luis...it's not like this all the time...why C
> just last week we were all enjoying talking about tailwheels C or
> maybe that was just me enjoying it C while some others suffered. : )
>
> If you're still tuned in C some of us are also "flying weekly" if not
> daily. Why not tell us about some of your flying adventures...that
> seems to be the hot topic.
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster C taildragger
> Jabiru 2200 C #2062 C 600.2 hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> New skis done and flying
> do not archive
>
>
>
> On Jan 22 C 2009 C at 8:56 PM C wingnut wrote:
>
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut"
> <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>
> >
> > Wow. Posts like this are the reason I stopped reading this forum. I
> > poke in once in three months and I'm not disappointed. Glad to know
> > I'm not missing much. Thanks!
> >
> >
> >> You are very wrong about that AKFlyer C the short wing Pipers have
> >> a horrible reputation C and rightfully so. There is a really good
> >> reason manufacturers of modern airplanes have not imitated these
> >> short winged Pipers C and why the short winged pipers have not been
> >> produced in many many years and have never been copied ( Unlike
> >> the Piper Cub ). So despite your " Flawed Reasoning " and somewhat
> >> appealing an nostalgic post relating to old pipers C what you say
> >> is just bad information. I would hope most people here are smart
> >> enough to realize bad information even when it is presented by
> >> some slick C smoothing talking C snake oil salesman.
> >>
> >> Given aerodynamic information available these days C it is a really
> >> bad idea to clip the wings that short. Just look at the wingspans
> >> of most modern Light Sport Aircraft today C their wings have a
> >> pretty high aspect ratio C there is a very good reason for that.
> >
> >
> > --------
> > Luis Rodriguez
> > Model IV 1200
> > Rotax 912UL
> > Flying Weekly
> > Laurens C SC (34A)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226271#226271
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:30 am Post subject: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox/Weather/Oshkosh |
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Thanks for the offer, Pat...I'll put your number into my cell. I'm
planning on leaving here about 10-11 am Eastern, and overnighting as
close to OSH/Pioneer as possible. My plan is to get into Pioneer as
early as they open if possible, then depart about their Noontime (1pm
Michigan time) and making the 4 hr trip home to arrive about an hour
before dark falls on the land...there is supposed to be a pretty good
16 mile/knot wind from the northwest which should help with the trip
home. But if anything changes, I'll let you know.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying
do not archive
On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:00 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, If for some reason you need to put down in Rockford at 1C8,
Cottonwood airport ( I think we have plenty of snow still) feel
free to give me a call. You are welcome to stay over night at my
place. 630-292 6117 is my cell phone.
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: Re: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox/Weather/
Oshkosh
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:29:35 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
>
> Just gettin' ready for sack time, Gary. I went down to the hangar to
> see if the snow/ice had melted off the skis and brakes after a
slushy
> landing and takeoff on a lake...more later if anybody's
interested in
> hearing of stupidity while flying...and fog was beginning to form
due
> to a fast temp drop after a warm day. All this to say I won't be
> getting out of here real early for my trip to Oshkosh tomorrow if
> this fog becomes real thick.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> New skis done and flying
> do not archive
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:43 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Love that sense of humour! Why are you still up?
> >
> > Gary Algate
> > SMC, Exploration
> > Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
> >
> >
> > This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
> > addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of
> > this message by persons or entities other than the intended
> > recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in
error,
> > kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the
> > message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for
> > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> > arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
> > “This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the
mail, we
> > have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
> > and happy Christmas".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > 23/01/2009 01:07 PM
> > Please respond to
> > kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> > To
> > kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > cc
> > Subject
> > Re: Re: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > Hey, we've missed you Luis....it's not like this all the
time...why,
> > just last week we were all enjoying talking about tailwheels, or
> > maybe that was just me enjoying it, while some others
suffered. : )
> >
> > If you're still tuned in, some of us are also "flying weekly"
if not
> > daily. Why not tell us about some of your flying adventures...that
> > seems to be the hot topic.
> >
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > New skis done and flying
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:56 PM, wingnut wrote:
> >
> > >
> > <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>
> > >
> > > Wow. Posts like this are the reason I stopped reading this
forum. I
> > > poke in once in three months and I'm not disappointed. Glad
to know
> > > I'm not missing much. Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >> You are very wrong about that AKFlyer, the short wing Pipers
have
> > >> a horrible reputation, and rightfully so. There is a really
good
> > >> reason manufacturers of modern airplanes have not imitated
these
> > >> short winged Pipers, and why the short winged pipers have
not been
> > >> produced in many many years and have never been copied ( Unlike
> > >> the Piper Cub ). So despite your " Flawed Reasoning " and
somewhat
> > >> appealing an nostalgic post relating to old pipers, what you
say
> > >> is just bad information. I would hope most people here are
smart
> > >> enough to realize bad information even when it is presented by
> > >> some slick, smoothing talking, snake oil salesman.
> > >>
> > >> Given aerodynamic information available these days, it is a
really
> > >> bad idea to clip the wings that short. Just look at the
wingspans
> > >> of most modern Light Sport Aircraft today, their wings have a
> > >> pretty high aspect ratio, there is a very good reason for that.
> > >
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Luis Rodriguez
> > > Model IV 1200
> > > Rotax 912UL
> > > Flying Weekly
> > > Laurens, SC (34A)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 26271#226271
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > www.matronics.com/contribution _-
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:32 am Post subject: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox/Weather/Oshkosh |
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I already had it in there, Pat....: )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying
do not archive
On Jan 23, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
| Quote: |
Thanks for the offer, Pat...I'll put your number into my cell. I'm
planning on leaving here about 10-11 am Eastern, and overnighting
as close to OSH/Pioneer as possible. My plan is to get into Pioneer
as early as they open if possible, then depart about their Noontime
(1pm Michigan time) and making the 4 hr trip home to arrive about
an hour before dark falls on the land...there is supposed to be a
pretty good 16 mile/knot wind from the northwest which should help
with the trip home. But if anything changes, I'll let you know.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
Sensenich 62x46
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
New skis done and flying
do not archive
On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:00 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, If for some reason you need to put down in Rockford at 1C8,
> Cottonwood airport ( I think we have plenty of snow still) feel
> free to give me a call. You are welcome to stay over night at my
> place. 630-292 6117 is my cell phone.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Re: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox/
> Weather/Oshkosh
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:29:35 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Just gettin' ready for sack time, Gary. I went down to the
> hangar to
> > see if the snow/ice had melted off the skis and brakes after a
> slushy
> > landing and takeoff on a lake...more later if anybody's
> interested in
> > hearing of stupidity while flying...and fog was beginning to
> form due
> > to a fast temp drop after a warm day. All this to say I won't be
> > getting out of here real early for my trip to Oshkosh tomorrow if
> > this fog becomes real thick.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > New skis done and flying
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:43 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Love that sense of humour! Why are you still up?
> > >
> > > Gary Algate
> > > SMC, Exploration
> > > Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
> > >
> > >
> > > This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the
> > > addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or
> copying of
> > > this message by persons or entities other than the intended
> > > recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in
> error,
> > > kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete
> the
> > > message from your system. The sender does not accept liability
> for
> > > any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may
> > > arise as a result of the e-mail transmission.
> > > “This year, instead of sending you a Christmas card in the
> mail, we
> > > have made a contribution to UNICEF Australia. We wish you a safe
> > > and happy Christmas".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > > Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > > 23/01/2009 01:07 PM
> > > Please respond to
> > > kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > >
> > > To
> > > kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> > > cc
> > > Subject
> > > Re: Re: 26 foot Clipped Wing Kitfox
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> > >
> > > Hey, we've missed you Luis....it's not like this all the
> time...why,
> > > just last week we were all enjoying talking about tailwheels, or
> > > maybe that was just me enjoying it, while some others
> suffered. : )
> > >
> > > If you're still tuned in, some of us are also "flying weekly"
> if not
> > > daily. Why not tell us about some of your flying
> adventures...that
> > > seems to be the hot topic.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lynn Matteson
> > > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 600.2 hrs
> > > Sensenich 62x46
> > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > > New skis done and flying
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:56 PM, wingnut wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com>
> > > >
> > > > Wow. Posts like this are the reason I stopped reading this
> forum. I
> > > > poke in once in three months and I'm not disappointed. Glad
> to know
> > > > I'm not missing much. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> You are very wrong about that AKFlyer, the short wing
> Pipers have
> > > >> a horrible reputation, and rightfully so. There is a really
> good
> > > >> reason manufacturers of modern airplanes have not imitated
> these
> > > >> short winged Pipers, and why the short winged pipers have
> not been
> > > >> produced in many many years and have never been copied
> ( Unlike
> > > >> the Piper Cub ). So despite your " Flawed Reasoning " and
> somewhat
> > > >> appealing an nostalgic post relating to old pipers, what
> you say
> > > >> is just bad information. I would hope most people here are
> smart
> > > >> enough to realize bad information even when it is presented by
> > > >> some slick, smoothing talking, snake oil salesman.
> > > >>
> > > >> Given aerodynamic information available these days, it is a
> really
> > > >> bad idea to clip the wings that short. Just look at the
> wingspans
> > > >> of most modern Light Sport Aircraft today, their wings have a
> > > >> pretty high aspect ratio, there is a very good reason for
> that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --------
> > > > Luis Rodriguez
> > > > Model IV 1200
> > > > Rotax 912UL
> > > > Flying Weekly
> > > > Laurens, SC (34A)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Read this topic online here:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 26271#226271
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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