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		K Dilks
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Wing skin stringers | 
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				I am now fitting a row of lower skin stringers ( anti oil canning ).
  I have 2024 T3 L sections made up.My question to all is on ZAC planes they say  100mm rivet spacing on the upper skin stringers but to me that is way to big on a A4 rivet.  
 Im looking at doing 52mm spacing but then I run into odd numbers  between the outer ribs. 
 Any thoughts on this, I will fit 2 rows to the upper skin also.
  Thanks 
 kev
 
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		rsteele(at)rjsit.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Wing skin stringers | 
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				The 650 plans don't show the anti-oil canning L channel on the bottom  
 of the wing.  I think it's considered cosmetic only, so there really  
 is no point.
 
 I suppose it's possible that channel on the bottom might actually take  
 load.   I wouldn't like to guess about rivet spacing for such an  
 application.
 
 Ron
 
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  I am now fitting a row of lower skin stringers ( anti oil canning ).
  I have 2024 T3 L sections made up.My question to all is on ZAC  
  planes they say  100mm rivet spacing on the upper skin stringers but  
  to me that is way to big on a A4 rivet.
  Im looking at doing 52mm spacing but then I run into odd numbers   
  between the outer ribs.
  Any thoughts on this, I will fit 2 rows to the upper skin also.
  Thanks
  kev
 
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		Gig Giacona
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Wing skin stringers | 
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				 	  | K Dilks wrote: | 	 		  I am now fitting a row of lower skin stringers ( anti oil canning ).
  I have 2024 T3 L sections made up.My question to all is on ZAC planes they say  100mm rivet spacing on the upper skin stringers but to me that is way to big on a A4 rivet.  
 Im looking at doing 52mm spacing but then I run into odd numbers  between the outer ribs. 
 Any thoughts on this, I will fit 2 rows to the upper skin also.
  Thanks 
 kev | 	  
 
 This mod isn't designed to add any strength to the wing just to keep it from oil canning. I think the logical option would be to go with the widest spacing that will fit evenly. If you find that they are spaced to far apart to do what they are there to correct then add a rivet half way between the first set.
 
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		daveaustin2(at)primus.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Wing skin stringers | 
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				Is it wise to put wo diferent alloys next to each other?  Why not go with 
 6061-T6 stringers?
 Dave Austin  601HDS - 912
 
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		larry(at)macsmachine.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Wing skin stringers | 
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				If you prime them, Dave,
 the difference in alloy won't make a difference. Better to prime even 
 between alloys that are alike.
 Moisture in today's condensate contains minute amounts of material that 
 corrodes aluminum.
 
 Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
 
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  Is it wise to put wo diferent alloys next to each other?  Why not go 
  with 6061-T6 stringers?
  Dave Austin  601HDS - 912
 
 
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