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tfisher(at)commandergroup
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 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:26 pm Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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Just make sure you have any paperwork for all components and field changes made in Canada.
Tom
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680FLP (Mr.RPM)
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gmosh(at)charter.net
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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What model Commander are you looking for? I have a straight 560 for sale.
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dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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I have a 500 Shrike for sale.
Don Falik
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aquadiver99(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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I have a 500B for sale.
Donnie Rose
205/492-8444
From: "dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net" <dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net>
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Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:15:19 PM
Subject: RE: Canadian airplane.
I have a 500 Shrike for sale.
Don Falik
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dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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When I placed my Shrike with Gary Gadbury in Tenn. last September he was representing 2 others. Now he is representing 7 that are listed on Controller.
I have had no offers since I placed it with him. The main motivation was to get it out of another Michigan winter and put it where I wouldn’t be tempted to fly it.
The main motivation to sell it was the loss of my local mechanic/friend. Unless one has a wonderful relationship with a mechanic the complexity of the aircraft can be overwhelming emotionally and financially.
Don
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rsrandazzo(at)precisionma
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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Seems the market for commanders, like most big-ticket items, has slowed rather dramatically…
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:00 PM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Canadian airplane.
When I placed my Shrike with Gary Gadbury in Tenn. last September he was representing 2 others. Now he is representing 7 that are listed on Controller.
I have had no offers since I placed it with him. The main motivation was to get it out of another Michigan winter and put it where I wouldn’t be tempted to fly it.
The main motivation to sell it was the loss of my local mechanic/friend. Unless one has a wonderful relationship with a mechanic the complexity of the aircraft can be overwhelming emotionally and financially.
Don
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dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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All,
I have a “newbie” type of question.
What are the issues if I decide to put the airplane in “storage”? It is coming up on annual in March and the spar AD is due in April. The annual insurance is $4500 and is due in July.
If I find a hanger to store it in until the market strengthens or someone has interest in purchasing it, would it be flyable for demonstration if it is out of annual?
What could I expect to pay for inside storage on a monthly basis?
I don’t owe anything on it so it is not a monthly drain other than insurance. It seems logical to not annual it until someone has interest in it. It also seems logical not to do the AD until such time as it is sold. This would also keep the AD “fresh” for another 36 months upon sale.
Are there special issues with a plane that is “moth balled”? I know it doesn’t do a machine well to not be run.
I would appreciate any and all input.
Don
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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:16 am Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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No. It would require a ferry permit or annual inspection to fly.
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brcamp(at)windows.microso
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: Canadian airplane. |
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The issues are about the same as putting a car in long term storage. When it comes out, a lot of things will break.
Even if you pickle the engines, moisture will still accumulate in various nooks and crannies due to stagnant air and general lack of movement. Metal-on-metal surfaces will tend to bind, and of course anything hydraulic will begin to corrode and leak. Brake cylinders are especially vulnerable to problems. And props very quickly dry their seals and begin to corrode. And instruments, esp gyros, will suffer accelerated failure. The battery will fail from idle storage within a few months.
You won’t be able to demo the plane when it is out of annual, and you should inspect and relube the plane often, anyway.
In addition, there are a number of planned maintenance items that accumulate regardless of whether the plane is active or not. ELT batteries, ADs on the props, especially, annual, transponder check, static system check, etc.
The least expensive way to manage the airplane is to fly it (in annual) for at least ½ hour every two weeks or so. And make sure to change the oil at least every 120 days (so that acids coming out of solution in from the oil don’t corrode the engine). That way the systems will remain healthy. The money spent on annuals and insurance will be amply paid back, plus you at least get to remember why you bought it.
Bruce
AC52 N4186B
From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of dfalik(at)sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:23 AM
To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Canadian airplane.
All,
I have a “newbie” type of question.
What are the issues if I decide to put the airplane in “storage”? It is coming up on annual in March and the spar AD is due in April. The annual insurance is $4500 and is due in July.
If I find a hanger to store it in until the market strengthens or someone has interest in purchasing it, would it be flyable for demonstration if it is out of annual?
What could I expect to pay for inside storage on a monthly basis?
I don’t owe anything on it so it is not a monthly drain other than insurance. It seems logical to not annual it until someone has interest in it. It also seems logical not to do the AD until such time as it is sold. This would also keep the AD “fresh” for another 36 months upon sale.
Are there special issues with a plane that is “moth balled”? I know it doesn’t do a machine well to not be run.
I would appreciate any and all input.
Don
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