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Lynn Matteson
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 Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: JSL 007-1 dtd 14th April 2009 Use of Fuel Containing Alcohol |
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Andy Sylvester answered this question on April 28, 2009, and his
response follows:
"I emailed Jabiru on seeing this question and received a reply that
it is, in
fact KREEM that they use in their tanks. The previous sealant was 3M
EC776
with the amber colour but clearly this is less tolerant of alcohol."
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 647.4 hrs
Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On May 7, 2009, at 3:05 PM, dholly wrote:
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JSL 007-1 is a very informative read found on the www.jabiru.net.au
site under Service Bulletins. It includes the following info:
> Important Note For Jabiru Aircraft: Only aircraft with the white
> coloured fuel tank sealant can use fuel containing alcohol.
> Earlier tanks used a different sealant which was caramel coloured â
> €“ this sealant is soluble in alcohol and must not be used with an
> alcohol blend fuel. Aircraft fuel tanks with the caramel-coloured
> sealant may be re-sealed with the white
> sealant – contact Jabiru Aircraft or our local representative
> for details.
Q.) What exactly is the apparently alcohol impervious "white
coloured fuel tank sealant" and is it available for purchase thru
U.S. Jabiru dealers or other sources here in the States?
thx
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Roger Lee
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Location: Tucson, Az.
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: JSL 007-1 dtd 14th April 2009 Use of Fuel Containing Alc |
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Hi Lynn,
Kreem Weiss is what Flight Design uses in all their tanks and have beens for years. People use up to 22% ethanol in them without any issues. It is pretty much impervious to any liquids we would come into contact with as a pilot.
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: JSL 007-1 dtd 14th April 2009 Use of Fuel Containing Alcohol |
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Kreem (what is the "Weiss" part of the name?) is what I coated my
tanks with back in 2005, and it is still going strong....on 100LL.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 647.4 hrs
Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
On May 8, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Roger Lee wrote:
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Hi Lynn,
Kreem Weiss is what Flight Design uses in all their tanks and have
beens for years. People use up to 22% ethanol in them without any
issues. It is pretty much impervious to any liquids we would come
into contact with as a pilot.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Service Center
520-574-1080
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Float Flyr
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Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:06 am Post subject: JSL 007-1 dtd 14th April 2009 Use of Fuel Containing Alcohol |
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My tanks are not Kreemed so I cannot make a direct observation but there
have been many, many posts on this and other lists of Kreeme coming off the
interior of the tanks and blocking the fuel line(s). All this because some
brain dead politicians want to contaminate perfectly good fuel.
Noel
Thankfully still ethanol free fuel!
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Lynn Matteson
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:39 am Post subject: JSL 007-1 dtd 14th April 2009 Use of Fuel Containing Alcohol |
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I'll agree on the brain dead politicians mucking up the fuel, but we
may also be dealing with some brain dead builders who can't/won't
follow a few simple directions for the successful application of
Kreem...no ending "e" on my can, and no "Weiss" either....where the
hell did this Weiss come from all of a sudden? My Kreem is made in
Somis, California. A search for "kreem weiss" shows a bunch of pages
that "need translation", so I'm suspecting that Kreem got sent
overseas. Like many other US products, this is probably another
product that the tree-huggers found to be objectionable, and forced
it to go elsewhere....I hope not.
Sorry to be so pissy, but I didn't get to fly today, and I ain't happy!
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 647.4 hrs
Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On May 9, 2009, at 1:30 PM, Noel wrote:
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My tanks are not Kreemed so I cannot make a direct observation but
there
have been many, many posts on this and other lists of Kreeme
coming off the
interior of the tanks and blocking the fuel line(s). All this
because some
brain dead politicians want to contaminate perfectly good fuel.
Noel
Thankfully still ethanol free fuel!
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: JSL 007-1 dtd 14th April 2009 Use of Fuel Containing Alcohol |
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As good an excuse as any... better than most!
Noel
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