Matronics Email Lists Forum Index Matronics Email Lists
Web Forum Interface to the Matronics Email Lists
 
 Get Email Distribution Too!Get Email Distribution Too!    FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Fuel injection (Jason here)

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Europa-List
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
litesellme(at)YAHOO.COM
Guest





PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Fuel injection (Jason here) Reply with quote

Frans,
Fuel injection has been used on the predator for 300,000 hours. If you talk to any mechanics that worked on the aircraft before 2001 and after, they will all tell you that fuel injection increases performance, much less maintenance, longevity, throttle response, reduces vibration 1/2- 2/3, fuel consumption ect. All my systems use a fuel rail. If air gets into the fuel rail, it just circulates out and back to the tank via the fuel pressure regulator. Fuel injection is under 40psi of pressure, you will never get vapor (due to the fuel vaporizing) in the fuel system. If you are getting really low on fuel, you might suck some air, and then some fuel, then some more air. The air will drop your fuel pressure untell the pump sucks more fuel. Once the fuel gets flowing again, the air will be pushed out of the fuel system in just a second or two. My fuel systems have been modeled parallel to what the military has done. If it was a problem, they would have addressed it. the predator is as tight of a cowling as you can get one, and in a pusher configuration.
Thanks everyone for your support
Jason
--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Frans Veldman <frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl> wrote:
Quote:

From: Frans Veldman <frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl>
Subject: Re: 914 Fuel Injected Update & Opinion
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 1:27 PM

--> Europa-List message posted by: Frans Veldman <frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl (frans(at)paardnatuurlijk.nl)>

Curtis Jaussi wrote:
Quote:
Lots of good questions.  I can address some of them. Jason is well aware of
the problem of potential air in the fuel and has designed the fuel flow
through the system and back to the tank so that any air should be pumped on
through quite quickly. This part makes sense to me.

Yes, but it is still possible that some air will make it into the
injectors. And then? Furthermore, it doesn't has to be air, it can also
be vaporized fuel. Although any engine hates that, a fuel injected
engine especially hates it. With the tight and warm Europa cowling, and
high altitude capability, and the use of Mogas, I think some fuel vapor
can hardly be avoided.

Also, this system will make it impossible to run a tank dry, before
switching to the reserve side. So, this poses the problem that one has
to decide at what level to switch over. 5 Liters at least remaining
seems to be the minimum to me, and one should not forget to switch over
in time. (if the reminder is in the form of a sputtering engine, like it
normally is, it is probably to late for the fuel injection system). With
5 liters, one has about 10 minutes left (considering the fact that the
very last liter will probably have so much air in it that it will be
unusable anyway). This will cut the usable amount of fuel considerably.
Any fuel savings due to the fuel injection is offset by the fact that
you can't risk to run the main side of the tank dry, so effectively you
can't increase the endurance.

Quote:
As for redundency, it
is totally redundant with two complete systems: two fuel pumps, two sets of
injectors, two sets of sensors,separate electrical systems, etc. Only one
system is in operation at one time and you manually switch from one to the
other if needed.

Ok, sounds good.
I think that Jason will probably draw more customers if he puts all this
kind of information on his website. I could do with less pictures.

Some more information about an upgrade kit for existing 9t; ht="http://forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.c &nbsf="http://www.matronics.com/contribution" =======



[quote][b]


- The Matronics Europa-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Matronics Email Lists Forum Index -> Europa-List All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group