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		zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				HI Group
 
 Here is the complete updated list of forums for Zenith builders
 Educational Forums at Oshkosh presented by Zenith: 
 
 Zodiac Update: Monday, 7/27/2009 - 10:00 AM - 11:15 AM - 008 NATCA Pavilion 
 
 STOL Flying: Thursday, 7/30/2009 - 10:00 AM - 11:15 AM - 009 Honda Generator
 Pavilion 
 
 STOL CH 750 design: Friday, 7/31/2009 - 11:30 AM - 12:45 PM - 011 REMOS
 Aircraft Pavilion
 (Dates, times and topics are subject to change - check the official EAA
 program at AirVenture).
 
 Educational Forums at Oshkosh presented by Can-Zac Aviation
  
 7/29/2009 - 8:30 AM - 9:45 AM - 017 Workshop Classroom
 Plans Building Your Homebuilt - 
 Presented by: Mark Townsend
 
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		chris Sinfield
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure Forum Zodiac  Update | 
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				Hi
 For those of us outside the US who can't make this forum, can you please post a summery of this meeting please. and for those going please keep it civil. I think you will find they are easier to talk to that way.
 Chris 
 Australia
 
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		Gig Giacona
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				Better yet video them and put them on the DVD with the next newsletter.
 
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		z601(at)anemicaardvark.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				On Thursday 02 July 2009 15:58, Gig Giacona wrote:
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  Better yet video them and put them on the DVD with the next newsletter.
 
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 Assuming the necessary clearances can be obtained from EAA, why not put all 
 the forums and the dinner on DVD? I think EAA has a policy of some sort about 
 distributing videos taken at the convention.
 
 It would be worth a few bucks to see what went on, if it won't all fit on the 
 single disk that accompanies the newsletter. Maybe the dinner could be on one 
 disk, and the forums on another.
 
 I'm aware that DVD-5 is supposedly limited to an hour of video, but there is 
 software that can squeeze things so that two hours fit on one DVD-5 disk.
 
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		ggower_99(at)yahoo.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				Hello Jim,
   
  I think that if there is the case of the videos are going to be sent in DVD, the simplest and "standardd" system is better,  one that most (if possible all) home DVD sets can read...
   
  Saludos
  Gary Gower.
  Do not archive.
 
 --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Jim Belcher <z601(at)anemicaardvark.com> wrote:
 
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 From: Jim Belcher <z601(at)anemicaardvark.com>
 Subject: Re: Re: Airventure Forum Update
 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 5:37 PM
 
  --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim Belcher <z601(at)anemicaardvark.com (z601(at)anemicaardvark.com)>
 
 On Thursday 02 July 2009 15:58, Gig Giacona wrote:
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  Better yet video them and put them on the DVD with the next newsletter.
 
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 Assuming the necessary clearances can be obtained from EAA, why not put all 
 the forums and the dinner on DVD? I think EAA has a policy of some sort about 
 distributing videos taken at the convention.
 
 It would be worth a few bucks to see what went on, if it won't all fit on the 
 single disk that accompanies the newsletter. Maybe the dinner could be on one 
 disk,  and the forums on another.
 
 I'm aware that DVD-5 is supposedly limited to an hour of video, but there is 
 software that can squeeze things so that two hours fit on one DVD-5 disk.
 
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		Larry Webber
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				zbagers should have their own seperate dinner
 
 do not archive Larry    flame away
 
   
 
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  From: chris_sinfield(at)yahoo.com.au
  Date: Thu C 2 Jul 2009 13:36:12 -0700
  To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
  
  --> Zenith-List message posted by: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield(at)yahoo.com.au>
  
  Hi
  For those of us outside the US who can't make this forum C can you please post a summery of this meeting please. and for those going please keep it civil. I think you will find they are easier to talk to that way.
  Chris 
  Australia
  
  
  
  
  Read this topic online here:
  
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251203#251203
  
  
  
  
  
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		dougsire
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				Mark,
 
 The official EAA site, http://www.eaaapps.org/forumsearchresults.aspx?presenter=766, has the first two forums reversed from what you show.   Are you sure your information is correct????
 
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		zodierocket(at)hsfx.ca Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				The info I have is from the Zenith site and I believe that the EAA website
 will be updating.
 http://www.zenithair.com/events.htm
 Mark Townsend
 Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
 519-590-7601 www.canzac.ca
 Canadian Dealer for Zenith Aircraft Kits, Zenair Designs.
  
 
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		z601(at)anemicaardvark.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				On Thursday 02 July 2009 17:46, Gary Gower wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Hello Jim,
   
  I think that if there is the case of the videos are going to be sent in
  DVD, the simplest and "standardd" system is better,  one that most (if
  possible all) home DVD sets can read... 
 
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 Gary, DVD-5 is the amount of data the DVD holds, not the format of the disk. 
 I'm guessing the DVDs we're getting are DVD-5s, because they usually have 
 only one hour of video on them. But that's only a guess, and it may not be 
 the case.
 
 I'm concerned that I'm pushing this off into a discussion of DVD technology, 
 which probably doesn't belong on the Zenith forum. If someone wants to 
 discuss it more, I'll be glad to discuss it, but please contact me directly.
 
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		Jon(at)joncroke.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:06 pm    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				AirVenture has very strick rules about filming on their premises.... (you 
 may not film forums for commercial use!)
 
 However, if I am able to record the presentation, I would make it available 
 on DVD for newsletter members (free) but only by individual request and not 
 as part of each newsletter.  This way, I think I would be adhering to the 
 spirit of the rule.
 
 It is my opinion that this presentation will be rehashing mostly old news 
 about this topic (I was in attendance at the Sun n Fun version 2 months 
 ago!) There was little content that would have been useful to most readers. 
 (esp for 701, 801, 750 builders,etc)  It reminded me of  local city meetings 
 where unhappy people vent their frustrations and questions that cannot 
 possibly be answered get asked over and over by the same group of people...
 
 And yes, we break the 1hr DVD recording barrier whenever needed.... variable 
 compression at burning time allows up to 2 hrs per disk, at the sacrifice of 
 video quality.  A great accomplishment by the "standards" committees: that 
 DVD with your newsletter works on every player in the WORLD...very 
 impressive!  The biggest problem is that some computer DVD players do have 
 issues.... they are not created equal... but that $29 stand alone DVD player 
 from Walmart always works!
 
 I will be concentrating on filming/interviewing pilots with their Zenith 
 aircraft at Airventure... so if you are planning on flying in and want to 
 share your story of flight and aircraft, please advise me so I can find you! 
 Also, it is always fun to film the builder's dinner... so if you cannot make 
 it this year, I want to be able to share that experience with you.  This is 
 what the newsletter & video are for!
 
 If you have other ideas/suggestions, let me know!  The issue out next month 
 has some neat interviews from the recent ZAC fly-in..... did you know there 
 is a gentleman that is building his 7th Zenith aircraft kit!  By the time I 
 was done talking with him I wanted to place an order with ZAC...
 
 Jon
 Newsletter editor
 
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		burbby
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Airventure Forum Update | 
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				Jon:
 
 If you get to record anything I am very interested and wish to have one copy.
 
 Thanks
 --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Jon Croke <Jon(at)joncroke.com> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   From: Jon Croke <Jon(at)joncroke.com>
  Subject: Re: Re: Airventure Forum Update
  To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
  Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 3:59 PM
  
  "Jon Croke" <Jon(at)joncroke.com>
  
  AirVenture has very strick rules about filming on their
  premises.... (you may not film forums for commercial use!)
  
  However, if I am able to record the presentation, I would
  make it available on DVD for newsletter members (free) but
  only by individual request and not as part of each
  newsletter.  This way, I think I would be adhering to
  the spirit of the rule.
  
  It is my opinion that this presentation will be rehashing
  mostly old news about this topic (I was in attendance at the
  Sun n Fun version 2 months ago!) There was little content
  that would have been useful to most readers. (esp for 701,
  801, 750 builders,etc)  It reminded me of  local
  city meetings where unhappy people vent their frustrations
  and questions that cannot possibly be answered get asked
  over and over by the same group of people...
  
  And yes, we break the 1hr DVD recording barrier whenever
  needed.... variable compression at burning time allows up to
  2 hrs per disk, at the sacrifice of video quality.  A
  great accomplishment by the "standards" committees: that DVD
  with your newsletter works on every player in the
  WORLD...very impressive!  The biggest problem is that
  some computer DVD players do have issues.... they are not
  created equal... but that $29 stand alone DVD player from
  Walmart always works!
  
  I will be concentrating on filming/interviewing pilots with
  their Zenith aircraft at Airventure... so if you are
  planning on flying in and want to share your story of flight
  and aircraft, please advise me so I can find you! Also, it
  is always fun to film the builder's dinner... so if you
  cannot make it this year, I want to be able to share that
  experience with you.  This is what the newsletter &
  video are for!
  
  If you have other ideas/suggestions, let me know!  The
  issue out next month has some neat interviews from the
  recent ZAC fly-in..... did you know there is a gentleman
  that is building his 7th Zenith aircraft kit!  By the
  time I was done talking with him I wanted to place an order
  with ZAC...
  
  Jon
  Newsletter editor
  
  
  
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  <wrgiacona(at)gmail.com>
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  > Better yet video them and put them on the DVD with the
  next newsletter.
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