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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Outrigger lengths Reply with quote

Jim,

I read you loud and clear...thanks for your insights. With your Pitts
experience, your brain and toes must be dialed in.

Reflecting on your initial post, I was wondering about whether the
stock-length outriggers were sized to help one stay ahead of the
airplane by giving a visual cue prior to an incipient runway
excursion...and perhaps...the longer outriggers might not. For the
novice mono-driver, that visual cue early on might be helpful, but I
get your point about the wobble being misleading (at least some of the
time). In my mind, I like the notion of stability on rollout afforded
by the longer outriggers...but that's no substitute for direct
experience.

I have +600 hrs in taildraggers, but the're all in my Stinson 108 and
J-3s...pretty benign birds.

Fred
On Sep 20, 2009, at 4:44 PM, <acrojim(at)cfl.rr.com> <acrojim(at)cfl.rr.com>
wrote:

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Fred

I think this is the 4th set of outriggers I have replaced over the
years. Each set was made longer,about 1/2 inch each time. My
monowheel is an XS model,and not the classic so there may be a
difference in lengths of the outriggers as supplied by the factory???

In looking back when I was learning to land the monowheel, FOR ME I
think the learning curve would have gone better had the outriggers
been longer... Let me explain....During landings,after touchdown,
the rocking from side to side of the wings with the short outriggers
gave me the inpression that the plane was starting to turn to one
side or the other, and I sometime corrected for a turn, when there
was no turn. It took a while for my brain and my feet to come
togather in my mind. Before I started flying the monowheel, I had
acculuminated 1000 plus hours in a Pitts S-1-S which I owned. My
perspective of what was going on outside the monowheel during the
landing roll out, was affected by what I had seen in the Pitts.

I'm not sure how a low time pilot might feel, or be aware of what is
happing in the landing roll out of their monowheel.
I don't know if anyone has posted their thoughts on this
subject.....but please DO NOT change out the outriggers on your
plane on basis of my experience.

Please understand I am not suggesting that anyone run out and change
outriggers for longer ones.

Jim Brown.
---- Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com> wrote:
>
> <fklein(at)orcasonline.com>
> On Sep 20, 2009, at 5:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
>> Over the past ten years I have extened the outriggers in length, to
>> now when the plane is parked, both outriggers touch the ground. For
>> me ground handling is much better, and in landing with the longer
>> outriggers the "rocking from one outrigger to the other" is now
>> gone.
>
> Jim,
>
> Have you made the outriggers longer incrementally over the years or
> in
> one fell swoop?
>
> Would you venture an opinion as to whether or not the shorter legs
> were advantageous initially as you familiarized yourself w/ the mono?
>
> Sounds like you've had excellent results w/ the smaller tire at
> higher
> pressure on the hardsurface runways you use...thanks for putting your
> oar in to this discussion.
>
> Fred
> A194 XS mono
>



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