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goodings(at)yorku.ca
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:43 am Post subject: Zenith-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/05/09

I have not flown a CH2000.  In my opinion, a Cherokee 140 would NOT be a 

good primer for a CH601HD or HDS.  An aircraft with a control wheel (as in 

the CH2000) is NOT a good primer for the stick in an HD or HDS.  I don't 

think it would prepare a relatively low-time pilot (like me!) for the very 

sensitive pitch control in an HD or HDS.



John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Carp/Ottawa/Toronto.

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psm(at)att.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:47 am Post subject: Zenith-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/05/09

Hi John,



I agree with you, but your comment got me thinking.



The more different model planes you fly, the more likely you will 

learn to control your pitch and other attitude components by visual 

feedback rather than thinking a certain force will get a known 

response.  Even  flying the exact same plane from one extreme loading 

to another can make a big difference in pitch response.  Once you 

learn to use visual feedback for you attitude control it gets much 

easier to fly any plane and to switch from one to another.



That said, each make and model flies differently from all 

others.  The only way to really get appropriate experience is to fly 

the exact make and model of interest.  Perhaps that is why you need 

to make three landings in the given model before taking passengers.



Insurance companies and brokers are very good at finding close 

substitutes for rare planes.  To qualify for insurance in a CH601XL I 

had one broker tell me I needed to get time in anything with a 601 in 

the model and another tell me I needed time in the exact same model to qualify.



Paul

XL awaiting engineering changes

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At 07:43 AM 10/6/2009, you wrote:

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		  I have not flown a CH2000.  In my opinion, a Cherokee 140 would NOT 

be a good primer for a CH601HD or HDS.  An aircraft with a control 

wheel (as in the CH2000) is NOT a good primer for the stick in an HD 

or HDS.  I don't think it would prepare a relatively low-time pilot 

(like me!) for the very sensitive pitch control in an HD or HDS.



John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Carp/Ottawa/Toronto.

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Doug.Norman(at)sportaviat
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: Zenith-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/05/09

I've been told that a Grumman is a close approximation. Even to the

pitchiness.



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fgantt(at)texaviation.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: Zenith-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/05/09

GuysI have a couple of 100 hours in a Grumman Tiger and it is a slick airplane  and light on the controls. The Tiger could be used as a good transition but you fly the plane by the numbers and I do not have any time in a Zenith 601/650 to compare. I did some work in a Czech Sport Cruiser and the instructor that I used had also flown a 601xl and said the handling was very similar.The airplane I used is located in the DFW area.

Floyd  

From: "Doug - SportAviation" <Doug.Norman(at)sportaviation.aero>Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:34 AMTo: zenith-list(at)matronics.comSubject: RE: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 10/05/09--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug - SportAviation" I've been told that a Grumman is a close approximation. Even to thepitchiness.--

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