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NAV Antenna Choices and Range

 
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: NAV Antenna Choices and Range Reply with quote

Here's another Tidbit I learned from this trip...

I know that lots of people say the Bob Archer Nav antenna
is a fantastic piece of gear, and I have one in my left wingtip
and like it as well. I'm not a fan of splitting a NAV signal
and losing 50% of your signal trying to share it between receivers.

My NAV1 is an SL30 tied to my cat whiskers Comant antenna under
the tail, mounted backwards, incorrectly, but it looks ok.

My NAV2 is a GNS480 tied to my Bob Archer wingtip NAV on the
Left wing. It's invisible, so it looks great. It's harder
to mount than the tail mounted one, but not anything super
tough.
Well, on the way home today I tuned in a station 125 miles away with
both radios. I was at 6500', where ground is about 1000' MSL.
My NAV1 picked it up and displayed the radial reliably about 80
miles away. My NAV2, Archer wingtip Nav, picked it up about
20 miles closer.

I just had to post this because all you ever hear is "It works
great", or "It works better than anything else". What people
really need to know is, what kind of range are you really seeing.
This proved to me that I chose well when I set my cat whiskers
to be my main NAV1, integrated into my EFIS...which I'll use
more than the other NAV. Not knocking the archer Nav, and this
is only one datapoint, but I know some will appreciate some
hard numbers. To me, the most important thing about an antenna
is how it works, not how it looks, or if it saves me a knot or two.

Tim
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: NAV Antenna Choices and Range Reply with quote

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Here's another Tidbit I learned from this trip...


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My NAV1 picked it up and displayed the radial reliably about 80
miles away. My NAV2, Archer wingtip Nav, picked it up about
20 miles closer.

Sounds like you have a wing root inline BNC on your Archer antenna, and a straight run to your Commant. Each time you put a BNC connection in a line, there is a 3-4 dB insertion loss (if you're lucky; can be worse). Am trying my best to avoid putting a connector in the line to my Archer antenna way out there on that wingtip; will see if it can be done.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: NAV Antenna Choices and Range Reply with quote

Nope, no wing root connectors on anything, and all antennas are
direct runs from the radio. I left just enough antenna wire
at the tip so I can lay the tip on the wing. Hopefully
I won't have the tip off too often though.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Dan Masys wrote:
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> Here's another Tidbit I learned from this trip...
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> My NAV1 picked it up and displayed the radial reliably about 80
> miles away. My NAV2, Archer wingtip Nav, picked it up about 20
> miles closer.

Sounds like you have a wing root inline BNC on your Archer antenna,
and a straight run to your Commant. Each time you put a BNC
connection in a line, there is a 3-4 dB insertion loss (if you're
lucky; can be worse). Am trying my best to avoid putting a connector
in the line to my Archer antenna way out there on that wingtip; will
see if it can be done.

-Dan Masys




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: NAV Antenna Choices and Range Reply with quote

Tim, this is good info but somewhat subjective because they are
two different radio's as well. What would be interesting is if you
could switch the antennas to the opposite radios's and try this same
test again. This will tell us if it is the antenna or the radio's that
are performing better.

Thank You
Ray Doerr
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First flight scheduled for May 26th.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: NAV Antenna Choices and Range Reply with quote

You are very correct. I would hope they would both be good, but it
could be the radio as well. I'll have to swap them and see and
will report back at a later date.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote:
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Tim, this is good info but somewhat subjective because they are
two different radio's as well. What would be interesting is if you
could switch the antennas to the opposite radios's and try this same
test again. This will tell us if it is the antenna or the radio's that
are performing better.



Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
First flight scheduled for May 26th.




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