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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: horizontal braces Reply with quote

I delivered the plane Saturday with the new horizontal braces. One observation: it could be me but, I think the horizontal felt stiffer than even the one on my plane. Plane flew well. I did some steep turns and pulled a couple of g's.

We'll see.


I have 3 more planes with cracks.




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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: horizontal braces Reply with quote

You are becoming the tail crack 2expert 2. If I run across any I'm going to send them down to you!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

I have a quick-time video with 64 pics of the horizontal braces being installed. Interested? Email me. [quote][b]

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:01 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

Yes please. I have a cheetah that I need to inspect.

Jim Fudge

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the video but it was too large. I'll cut it down.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

I got the video down to 100MB and it still won't send. Any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

I found a way to save it as an exported Q-time file. It's only 9MB now. It works on my computer.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> Gary, why don't you upload it to Picasa and then email the link to the slide show.
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I found a way to save it= as an exported Q-time file.  It's only 9MB now.  It works on my= computer.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:49 am    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

I will take a copy Gary!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

What is involved in converting a cheetah to a tiger. I fly out of short grass strips in northwest florida and some extra horse power sure would be nice.



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I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the video but it was too large. I'll cut it down.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

My Cheetah was converted to a Tiger under an STC in 1980. The conversion involves replacing the engine and front cowling as well as the thru spar to get the increased gross weight.

John Hosler



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What is involved in converting a cheetah to a tiger. I fly out of short grass strips in northwest florida and some extra horse power sure would be nice.



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I maintain 26781 which was converted to a Tiger. I tried sending the video but it was too large. I'll cut it down.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:35 am    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

Funny thing about that extra horsepower. A while back on the other site there was talk of how a 150 hp Traveler was enough. Still, I've never heard, "Gee, I wish I had less horsepower."

The cost to convert your plane to a Tiger is a lot higher than just selling your plane and buying a TIger. It really isn't worth the cost to convert.


If you want better climb performance, do the basics. GET RID OF WEIGHT. Most planes have way too much stuff in them that is never used. Then,
• Sensenich prop
• Powerflow
• High Compression STC if you don't have one already
• Ported and polished cylinders
• Lycon overhaul with ported and polished cylinders and a reindexed cam.


Did you get the video?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

NO… still no video.




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Funny thing about that extra horsepower. A while back on the other site there was talk of how a 150 hp Traveler was enough. Still, I've never heard, "Gee, I wish I had less horsepower."


The cost to convert your plane to a Tiger is a lot higher than just selling your plane and buying a TIger. It really isn't worth the cost to convert.



If you want better climb performance, do the basics. GET RID OF WEIGHT. Most planes have way too much stuff in them that is never used. Then,

• Sensenich prop

• Powerflow

• High Compression STC if you don't have one already

• Ported and polished cylinders

• Lycon overhaul with ported and polished cylinders and a reindexed cam.



Did you get the video?



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Horizontal Braces Reply with quote

I believe changing the center carry through spar is optional. I have seen a plane or two that used the Cheetah cowling and NACA air inlet and modified the stock Cheetah airbox with a Beech carburetor heat valve. Might be an alternative as Tiger airboxes are almost nonexistent.

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