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Malcolmbru(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a  ride 

only to find out he was a kit fox owner also  he  used Matronics user group and 

recognized my name and promised to speak up  the next time you guy, s made 

fun of my grammar.

    The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field  was  owned buy the owner of a 

company called green sky adventures. Maker of  the  micro mong  kit.      

Malcolm  Michigan

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bmwebb(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:49 am Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about

on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a

4.



The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF

shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got.



The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes

sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be

everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise.



I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right

behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why

there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a

KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7.



Bradley



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morid(at)northland.lib.mi
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:34 am Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

I don't recall anyone making fun of your grammer Malcolm.  I guess I may

have missed it when I was on vacation.  Next time it happens let me know.

Where in Michigan are you located?

Deke

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 I was riding around in a golf cart and was compelled to offer a guy a

ride
	


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		   only to find out he was a kit fox owner also  he  used Matronics user

group and
	


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		   recognized my name and promised to speak up  the next time you guy, s made

 fun of my grammar.

     The blue KF4 powered by a HKS in UL field  was  owned buy the owner of

a
	


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		   company called green sky adventures. Maker of  the  micro mong  kit.

 Malcolm  Michigan

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n981ms(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

I agree with the speed issue wrt presence of KF vs Lancair.  Also most Lancairs will be IFR capable making weather less of an issue.  When I went to Osh Kosh I took off work the whole week with my planned departure from Osh Kosh being Wednesday in order to have a window that would nearly guarantee decent weather for my return.  I do not have my IFR ticket.

   

  Maxwell



Bradley M Webb <bmwebb(at)cox.net> wrote:

  



That was actually a KF model 2. That was the HKS Demo plane the talk about

on their website. Nice motor, but pricey and not enough hp, especially for a

4.



The tail was different, more like the Avid. Mine is squared off, classic KF

shape. Started me wondering which tail I've got.



The thing that amazed me was the large amount of Lancair 4's there. Makes

sense, since it's a long range cross-country airplane. Just seemed to be

everywhere. Of course Vans were in force, no surprise.



I'd bet Kitfoxes are #2 on the list of most built experimentals, right

behind Vans. But since they are not the best CC airplanes, maybe that's why

there weren't more at SnF? A trip from the West coast is a major effort in a

KF, not so much in a Lancair, or RV7.



Bradley



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bmwebb(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

True about the IFR. Why wouldn't you IFR one of those beauties? 



If all goes as planned, I'll be making the trip to Osh, with a neat surprise

for you all. I'll need to do what you did, to leave enough window for wx.



Bradley



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n981ms(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

Actually I did.  The plane is IFR, the pilot is not.  I plan to do my IFR training in it when I get time.

   

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  Maxwell



Bradley M Webb <bmwebb(at)cox.net> wrote:

  



True about the IFR. Why wouldn't you IFR one of those beauties? 



If all goes as planned, I'll be making the trip to Osh, with a neat surprise

for you all. I'll need to do what you did, to leave enough window for wx.



Bradley



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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

While at S&F I talked to the insurance guys and asked

a few questions, amoung them, how much to ensure a

Lancair 4.  Only Falcon would insure a 4 these days,

and when I mentioned knowing someone who paid $18,000

per year for his, the Falcon rep didn't blink.  We got

into a few details and I was told that too many low

time pilots were flying the 4's and crashing.  Now

Falcon required retraining every 6 months before

continuing insurance on the 4's.



So if you think a taildragger KF is a problem, or your

insurance is too high, be glad you are not flying a

Lancair 4.  You could fly first class a lot cheaper.



Kurt S.  KF-5 



--- Bradley M Webb <bmwebb(at)cox.net> wrote:



................. 

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		   The thing that amazed me was the large amount of

 Lancair 4's there. Makes

 sense, since it's a long range cross-country

 airplane............

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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

Kurt,  I think it was Alan Daniels that posted  that the Lancair IV has a 

25% accident record.  Lots have gone down and a lot of people have died in 

them.  The Lancair factory has a program in concert with an insurance 

company that if followed will reduce the insurance significantly - down 

below $10,000.  Still if I had that kind of money in addition to gas and 

everything else, I would just pick up another Kitfox or two or maybe just 

foy the big bird around the country to meet some of you.



The program is essentially as you mentioned.  Extensive checkout with a 

factory authorized instructor and regular recurrent training.  On the 

project across the street, we closed out the fuselage Friday, yesterday we 

closed the door and today we are installing door hinges etc.  It is an 

interesting project, but I am not really excited to fly in it.  we'll see.



Lowell



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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: Meeting Kitfoxers at Sun 'n Fun michigan

Thanks Lowell,



I wanted to fly since the 8th grade.  My list of

desired planes developed into the KitFox, the Lancair

4, Staggerwing, and a '63 or 4 Debonaire.  Took me

almost 40 years to work up from poverty and buy the

KitFox first.  Looks like the '4 will be too expensive

for me to bother with.  I can't justify insurance

requirements that high.  Still a VW mentality in a

Beemer world I guess.  Probably end up with the KF for

bush flying and fun.  Something else for cross country

like the RV 10, a Lionheart, etc.  Hummm.  A Lionheart

on floats? 



Kurt S.



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--- Lowell Fitt <lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net> wrote:



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		   Kurt,  I think it was Alan Daniels that posted  that

 the Lancair IV has a 25% accident record.

 Lots have gone down and a lot

 of people have died in them.......

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