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		GrummanDude
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Turbo Tiger | 
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				I think it's Joe Bruer who has/had a turbo Tiger.   Correct me Cliff.   
 
 What was it's cruise altitude and what did it true out at?
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Turbo Tiger | 
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				Gary,
 
 It is Brad Brotherton that has the Turbo. Joe Bruer had an IO360 with a 
 constant speed prop that he sold a couple years ago. THat plane is in 
 Northern, CA now Miwuk Village owned by theHawk's
 
 Brad's Turbo Tiger was a one time STC gained around '85 or '86 by Seaplanes 
 something company near Seattle and when tey ent bankrupt the plane and or 
 STC was auctioned off. This a little sketchy but that's the gist of it.
 
 It has NOT flow for many years and is in  a very poor state of repair having 
 sat outsidde a number of yeara with a broken nose strut torque tube and a 
 run out engine and etc...
 
 Brad told me he usually cruised at 175 mph. It had a fixed pitch prop which 
 severly limited t but it was certified for 25,000'. My notes get a little 
 sketchy here again but he mentioned he flew it once 215mph TAS at 18000' and 
 calculated that at 25,000 it would do 230mph TAS
 
 BTW, He won't sell it:(
 
 Best Regards,
 Ned
 
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		jamey
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:11 pm    Post subject: Turbo Tiger | 
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				<2 cents>
 But he'll let it sit and deteriorate?  That's lame and seemingly idiotic.
 </2 cents>
 
 Jamey
 
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		flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:49 am    Post subject: Turbo Tiger | 
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				No, it's Brad Brotherton.
 
 Altitude is anything you want, but it can only really take advantage of the 
 turbo during climb because of the fixed pitch prop, a Sensenich pitched to 
 66" as I recall.  About 3" MP over atmospheric will overspeed the engine 
 even with that pitch.  I had heard that at $25,000 ft. it was still climbing 
 at 400 fpm.  It is faster than other Tigers down low due to the 66" pitch, 
 probably pretty close to your plane, Gary.  The MT prop would be a very nice 
 prop to try and should improve the cruise significantly at altitude.
 
 Cliff
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				 Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Turbo Tiger | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		   Brad told me he usually cruised at 175 mph. It had a fixed pitch prop 
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  severly limited t but it was certified for 25,000'. My notes get a little
  sketchy here again but he mentioned he flew it once 215mph TAS at 18000' 
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  calculated that at 25,000 it would do 230mph TAS
 
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		  From what Brad told me I don't think it went anywhere near that fast at 
 altitude.  It is very unrealistic to think that a turbocharged model of any 
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 plane will increase cruise speed by 55 mph from a normally aspirated optimum 
 cruise altitude of 8000 ft. to 25,000 ft.  About 25 mph would be the most 
 you would expect.  And that would be in line with what Brad told me that he 
 expected 200 mph at high altitude.
 
 Cliff
 
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