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frank.goodnight(at)att.ne
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:46 am Post subject: tie downs

Hi all,



I realize that almost anything can be used to tie down a airplane,  

However I would like to find something light enough and compact enough  

to take with me , in an already over loaded overcrowded a/c,  and good  

enough so that it will do the job in almost any situation. I seem to  

ask more questions than anyone else on the list . Thats because all  

this is new to me.Given enough time i hope  I can answer questions as  

well as ask them. Anyone know a brand or type they would recommend?-- 

and where to buy them-- I hate to spend money on something and then  

find out that it was not what

I really needed, then have to buy again. I had much rather pay a  

little more and get what I need the first time. I'm still gathering up  

--stuff-- to go A/C camping with , soon as the weather gets a little  

warmer ,Getting to be quite a pile.



Frank Goodnight

Firestar2

Brownsville , TX

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russkinne(at)mac.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:09 am Post subject: tie downs

Frank

There are some amazing fibres out there now. Look at the marine- 

supply places. Check out "Brait" - a woven super-strong rope that's  

not too expensive; you don't need much. Woven, good UV  resistance,  

lightweight, etc. I'll send you separately a piece  I wrote on  

cordage for one of the boating magazines. DON'T consider any  

polyesters; sunshine will weaken  them.

Enjoy your pile!

Russ

do not archive



On Jan 24, 2010, at 10:46 AM, frank.goodnight wrote:



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 <frank.goodnight(at)att.net>



 Hi all,



 I realize that almost anything can be used to tie down a airplane,  

 However I would like to find something light enough and compact  

 enough to take with me , in an already over loaded overcrowded a/ 

 c,  and good enough so that it will do the job in almost any  

 situation. I seem to ask more questions than anyone else on the  

 list . Thats because all this is new to me.Given enough time i  

 hope  I can answer questions as well as ask them. Anyone know a  

 brand or type they would recommend?--and where to buy them-- I hate  

 to spend money on something and then find out that it was not what

 I really needed, then have to buy again. I had much rather pay a  

 little more and get what I need the first time. I'm still gathering  

 up --stuff-- to go A/C camping with , soon as the weather gets a  

 little warmer ,Getting to be quite a pile.



 Frank Goodnight

 Firestar2

 Brownsville , TX

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:29 am Post subject: tie downs

> However I would like to find something light enough and compact enough

 	  Quote: 	
		   to take with me , in an already over loaded overcrowded a/c,  and good 

 enough so that it will do the job in almost any situation.

 Frank Goodnight


	




Frank G/Gang:



I carry two sets of tie downs.  One for dirt and softer conditions, and one 

set for rocky soil.



For dirt I have titanium cork screw (doggy) tie downs.  Kit comes with a 

cordura bag and a titanium rod to help twist the augers into the ground. 

Randy Simpson, Airtime Manufacturing, makes and sells them.  He is the 

gentleman that flew with Arty Trost from Oregon to Lakeland last year.  Arty 

may be able to provide contact info.



For rocky conditions, which are predominant out West, I have some home made 

tie downs.  We used 5/16" rebar, welded a chain loop on the side, just below 

the top so you wohn't beat up the loop with your hammer, and sharpened the 

bottom end.  A small hatchet or hammer does a good job of driving them into 

rocky soil.  I carry a small hatchet.  Might come in handy for cutting 

firewood or killing bears.  



I use 3/8" braided rope.  Many airports have rotten tie down ropes, or no 

ropes at all.  If you land under extremely windy conditions, you won't be 

able to leave your airplane to search for ropes, unless you have someone 

hold the airplane for you.  It is important to have enough rope to reach 

widely spaced tie downs at some airports.  Gaining more scope, by placing 

tie downs further outboard and aft, provides additional holding capacity.



If you want the dimension of my rebar tie down stakes let me know and I will 

go measure them.



john h

mkIII

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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: tie downs

Frank,

 The Claw,a tie down system in a bag with a special hammer and ropes.8 lbs complete.

 

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Ralph B

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Posts: 367
Location: Mound Minnesota

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: tie downs

The claw is good only for medium to hard soil conditions. If it's too soft, they can pull right out. This is why John Hauck carries two sets. I tried to use the doggie corkscrew tiedowns this past year at Oshkosh and they broke trying to screw them into the rock-hard ground. I didn't carry my claws because I thought I wouldn't need them. I rented two stakes from the red barn for $20. They worked during a storm, but I would have felt better with the claws. Live and learn ...



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