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Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/10

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/10 Reply with quote

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>>>>>>Time: 09:09:45 AM PST US
Subject: RE: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 01/27/10
From: "Christoph Both" <christoph.both(at)acadiau.ca (christoph.both(at)acadiau.ca)>

What a waste of time. Same for discussing if Apple is better than
Microsoft.

Much better to discuss which tool is best for the job. Let's stop
comparing Apples to Oranges. Or Toyotas to GM.

Christoph Both

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Hello Christoph,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but your comment is one of the most snobbish, elitiest things I've seen posted here in the eight years that I have participated in this forum. There are a lot of things that are posted to this forum that are a waste of time from my perspective, sir, such as anything to do with the monowheel, or the constant chatter about the "drop of the hat" fly outs that are only of use to those in the UK, or the various lengthy threads about Rotax installation and cooling issues with the Europa. Why not just skip over the posts you don't find interesting rather than insult the people who make them by chiding them for wasting your precious time? The majority of what is posted here is of little or no interest to me because I've been flying for nigh onto four years now and I don't reside in the UK. As such, I just skip over what doesn't interest me and pay it no mind.

Your tune would change dramatically if your engine of choice was constantly being berated on this forum with idle comments about <<reliability>> with no real basis in fact, thereby driving down the resale value of your airplane. You are but one of over 300 people subscribed to this list. Not everyone is interested in the same topics that interest you, either, partner. You might not have noticed, but there is a key in the upper righthand corner of your keyboard that has the word "Delete" written on it. If you don't like a topic, use that button, rather than the rest of the keys on your keyboard to insult the people here who are genuinely interested in the Jabiru engine and its use in the Europa as an alternative to the Rotax 9xx.

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John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:28 am    Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/10 Reply with quote

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>>>>>BTW: It is not possible to air-start a 912S in any case.<<<<<<

Hi Ira,

I air start the 912S in my Ximango all the time. Very easy to do and necessary if I run the battery down when soaring because I'm running my transponder, 2 varios and boombox off the battery.

All I have to do is push the nose over until I get to about 100 knots, flip on the mag switches, unfeather the prop and the engine starts right up. In fact, I had to demonstrate several air starts as a condition of getting my motorglider rating. As a general rule of thumb I observe a lower limit for engine off ops in the Ximango of 1500' agl in order to give myself enough room to perform an air start should it become necessary.  That big old fat Hoffman prop on my Ximango doesn't have any trouble spinning the 912S fast enough to start at just over 100 kts. Air starts might be difficult with skinny Warp Drive blades, though. That might be what John Hurst was referring to.

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John Lawton
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/10 Reply with quote

Hi John!

Frankly, I never knew where JH got his info. You and I well remember
the constant friction in the office back in the day! I do know that John
had no personal experience with inflight restarts of the 912S (as compared)
with the 914. Never tried it my self either and will not until I need to with
big wings. I used to worry about the engine cold soaking while soaring
(I can dream can't I) and having trouble restarting over the Catskills.

Over the years however I routinely have started my engine truly cold
without ever an issue if my Odyssey was over 80% charged

Your additional data point is certainly helpful with Terry's!

Regards,

Ira


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 01/28/10 Reply with quote

Hi John!

Frankly, I never knew where JH got his info. You and I well remember
the constant friction in the office back in the day! I do know that John
had no personal experience with inflight restarts of the 912S (as compared)
with the 914. Never tried it my self either and will not until I need to with
big wings. I used to worry about the engine cold soaking while soaring
(I can dream can't I) and having trouble restarting over the Catskills.

Over the years however I routinely have started my engine truly cold
without ever an issue if my Odyssey was over 80% charged

Your additional data point is certainly helpful with Terry's!

Regards,

Ira


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