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Registration vs. Airworthiness - Chicken & The Egg...

 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:40 pm    Post subject: Registration vs. Airworthiness - Chicken & The Egg... Reply with quote

I've gotten some conflicting reports. Do you have your final registration cert from the FAA in hand before you can apply for your Airworthiness cert, or is the pink copy of the registration sufficient?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Registration vs. Airworthiness - Chicken & The Egg.. Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Registration vs. Airworthiness - Chicken & The Egg... Reply with quote

You need the HARD CARD from Oklahoma City. The PINK copy is NOT sufficient.

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I've gotten some conflicting reports. Do you have your final registration cert from the FAA in hand before you can apply for your Airworthiness cert, or is the pink copy of the registration sufficient?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: Registration vs. Airworthiness - Chicken & The Egg... Reply with quote

Looks like you are still getting conflicting reports Matt!  I got my AW certificate last August. My local FSDO (Des Moines Iowa) required me to have the final registration – not the pink copy. It may vary by FSDO, but the rule here is as Gary describes below.

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You need the HARD CARD from Oklahoma City. The PINK copy is NOT sufficient.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Registration vs. Airworthiness - Chicken & The Egg... Reply with quote

At 05:37 PM 4/6/2010 Tuesday, you wrote:
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I've gotten some conflicting reports. Do you have your final registration cert from the FAA in hand before you can apply for your Airworthiness cert, or is the pink copy of the registration sufficient?

Matt Dralle


I found the following bit of information on the FAA web site regarding registrations and the use of the Pink copy. Here's an excerpt from the link that follows:

"You can also check the Document Index to see if recently mailed registration documents have arrived at the Aircraft Registration Branch. Arrival of registration documents in the Registry enables confirmation that application for registration has been made and temporary (pink-copy) operating authority is in effect. Processing registration documents related to a change in aircraft ownership averages 16 working days after their receipt."

http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/registration_status/

To me, this sounds like as soon as the FAA has received the registration and entered it into the system as indicated by an on line status search, you are allowed to use the Pink copy until the real copy arrives.

I would then assume that Airworthiness could be applied for under the same conditions...?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Registration vs. Airworthiness - Chicken & The Egg... Reply with quote

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The aircraft MUST be registered and you have the registration in hand before the airworthiness inspection can take place.
 
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I've gotten some conflicting reports. Do you have your final registration cert from the FAA in hand before you can apply for your Airworthiness cert, or is the pink copy of the registration sufficient?

Matt Dralle
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http://www.mattsrv8.com Matt's RV-8 Building Log
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