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ainut(at)knology.net
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: thinking about buying again

I'm in the need/mood to avoid the airlines again.  They make me so angry 

with their teeny tiny seats, handling people like cattle, and now EXTRA 

charges to take your luggage with you.  I mean significant extra money.  

They want $25-40 *each* to carry my wife and my standard luggage on a 

flight out to see the grandkids.  Plus, of course, we can't take our 

small dogs with us without HUGE extra money.  It was cheaper to buy 

these 13 lb dogs a regular human's seat than go as a pet, but of course, 

they would not sell us one that way.



Anyway, I want to fly my own anyway, so I'm thinking of several 

possibilities.  The L-29 was my first thought (again,) but of course, 

the fuel is the killer for routine cross country flights.  This 

particular time we/I'll be going from north Alabama to the south Denver 

area.  Also, I want to stay out of class A airspace because I'm a 

curmudgeon, I guess.  If the bird I get is unpressurized I'll need to 

stay below 12,500 our course because there are no oxygen solutions for 

the two dogs.  With an L-29, my wife (who will be going commercial 

airliner anyway) will be giving her seat to the dogs.  So a two seater 

with adequate baggage space will be fine.



I want the L-29 for the fun factor and the speed, but the fuel is 

probably killer at 109 gallons/hour.  I haven't done the actual  flight 

planning yet but I think it's about 1800 miles, so at 17,500 feet that's 

what, about 5 hours each way in the L-29?  So roughly 1,000 gallons of 

Jet-A yielding just *fuel* cost of over $4,000 roundtrip.  I can't 

afford that on a routine basis.



Another possibility is a Lancair 360 that  just came on the market.  

It's about 200 kts cruise at roughly 10 gal/hr, according to the ad.  

Definitely affordable as far as fuel, but a lot of money to put into a 

single engine prop type.



I have a Mustang Aeronautics Mustang II that I've converted to an auto 

engine but I need three small items from a fab shop but no shop in my 

area will build anything if i don't buy about a thousand units of each 

piece and I have to supply the original drawings.  That is entirely 

impractical, of course.  I don't need 3,000 widgets to pay for just to 

get 3 pieces.  It should cruise at 170 mph on about 5 gal/hour if I can 

ever get it finished.  It's airframe has 770 hours on it already so the 

plane itself is proven.  Built originally in 1972 (the year I first 

started flying lessons.)



Any other ideas, guys?  Whichever bird I wind up with, I'll need to get 

my local instructor to help brush the cobwebs out of my rusty skills, 

and also to get my biannual.



Thanks,

David M.

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RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:43 am Post subject: thinking about buying again

David, my Mustang II project has temporarily  stalled. However, I still think in terms of transportation for one or two, it is  near the best so far as economy/cost. You could build it for much less than some  of the other kits, fuel will be competitive with other kits, and the speed can  be excellent. Just my two cents worth. BTW, I love the L-29, but I'll never have  the IFR rating, so it just won't work for me even if I had the dough. 

  

 Boyce

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bculberson(at)staraviatio
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: thinking about buying again

Well, don't buy an L-29 for cross country use or because of the

"spacious" seats. Also, I would NEVER put anything in the back seat that

could accidentally turn off the fuel, instruments, and any other thing

that goes on the back seat. The L-29's purpose is for tactical jet

training and not for anything else. I would stick to the reciprocating

types for your mission.....



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SD737(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:52 pm Post subject: thinking about buying again

Still cheaper and faster to fly the airlines.  What's a  few bucks for your bags?  You could always ship your bags FEDEX or UPS  and pay them twice what the airlines charge.

  

  

  

  

  In a message dated 6/30/2010 8:52:44 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  bculberson(at)staraviation.com writes:

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		  -->    L29-List message posted by: "Bill Culberson"    <bculberson(at)staraviation.com>



Well, don't buy an L-29 for cross    country use or because of the

"spacious" seats. Also, I would NEVER put    anything in the back seat that

could accidentally turn off the fuel,    instruments, and any other thing

that goes on the back seat. The L-29's    purpose is for tactical jet

training and not for anything else. I would    stick to the reciprocating

types for your mission.....



-----Original    Message-----

From:    owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-l29-list-server(at)matronics.com]    On Behalf Of David

Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:32 AM

To:    l29-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: thinking about buying    again



--> L29-List message posted by: David    <ainut(at)knology.net>



I'm in the need/mood to avoid the airlines    again.  They make me so angry



with their teeny tiny seats,    handling people like cattle, and now EXTRA 

charges to take your luggage    with you.  I mean significant extra money.



They want $25-40 *each*    to carry my wife and my standard luggage on a 

flight out to see the    grandkids.  Plus, of course, we can't take our 

small dogs with us    without HUGE extra money.  It was cheaper to buy 

these 13 lb dogs a    regular human's seat than go as a pet, but of course,



they would not    sell us one that way.



Anyway, I want to fly my own anyway, so I'm    thinking of several 

possibilities.  The L-29 was my first thought    (again,) but of course, 

the fuel is the killer for routine cross country    flights.  This 

particular time we/I'll be going from north Alabama to    the south Denver 

area.  Also, I want to stay out of class A airspace    because I'm a 

curmudgeon, I guess.  If the bird I get is    unpressurized I'll need to 

stay below 12,500 our course because there are    no oxygen solutions for 

the two dogs.  With an L-29, my wife (who    will be going commercial 

airliner anyway) will be giving her seat to the    dogs.  So a two seater 

with adequate baggage space will be    fine.



I want the L-29 for the fun factor and the speed, but the fuel is    

probably killer at 109 gallons/hour.  I haven't done the actual     flight 

planning yet but I think it's about 1800 miles, so at 17,500 feet    that's



what, about 5 hours each way in the L-29?  So roughly 1,000    gallons of 

Jet-A yielding just *fuel* cost of over $4,000 roundtrip.     I can't 

afford that on a routine basis.



Another possibility is a    Lancair 360 that  just came on the market.  

It's about 200 kts    cruise at roughly 10 gal/hr, according to the ad.  

Definitely    affordable as far as fuel, but a lot of money to put into a 

single engine    prop type.



I have a Mustang Aeronautics Mustang II that I've converted    to an auto 

engine but I need three small items from a fab shop but no shop    in my 

area will build anything if i don't buy about a thousand units of    each 

piece and I have to supply the original drawings.  That is    entirely 

impractical, of course.  I don't need 3,000 widgets to pay    for just to 

get 3 pieces.  It should cruise at 170 mph on about 5    gal/hour if I can 

ever get it finished.  It's airframe has 770 hours    on it already so the 

plane itself is proven.  Built originally in    1972 (the year I first 

started flying lessons.)



Any other ideas,    guys?  Whichever bird I wind up with, I'll need to get 

my local    instructor to help brush the cobwebs out of my rusty skills, 

and also to    get my biannual.



Thanks,

David  ================================================

	


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