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frank.goodnight(at)att.ne
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: MidValleyA/P: Good Gas

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Subject: MidValleyA/P: Good Gas

Many of you probably know of this site already, but I just ran across it. It lists ethanol free gas stations by state. 

 Kurt 

 http://pure-gas.org/

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WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.co
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: MidValleyA/P: Good Gas

Kurt,

  

 Thank you very much for posting that Ethanol Free Gas  site.  NJ state law prevents any gas stations from selling Ethanol  Free gas.  But Pennsylvania law does allow it and I have found one station  within 60 miles.  I passed the info on to my friends at EAA Chapter 216 -  South Jersey.  Already two fellows have gone there and purchased gas and a  couple more are getting tanks set up to do the same.  So, thank you again  for this information.

  

 Bill Varnes

 Original FireStar

 Audubon, NJ

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		     Many of you probably know of this site already, but I just ran across it.    It lists ethanol free gas stations by state. 

    

   Kurt 

	


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Eugene Zimmerman

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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: MidValleyA/P: Good Gas

Hey Guys,



Just a heads up on "Ethanol Free Gas".

A flying buddy  of mine was using regular 87 octane for  hundreds and hundreds of hours and recently decided to try some of that gas advertised as "Premium Ethanol Free Gas".  He immediately experienced engine problems with cyl head temps spiking  dangerously high while  egt temps remained in the normal range and a near engine out with forced emergency landing.  Trailered the plane home and did all kinds of checks with repeated  engine run-ups,  each with similar symptoms and results.

He finally removed all the "Ethanol Free" fuel and  refueled with his normal regular 87 octane,,,,,, and  wouldn't  you know it ,,,,,,  it ran perfectly as it always had for hundreds of hours.

My uninformed PERSONAL opinion is that  whatever the refineries  are currently using instead of ethanol to meet octane specs is far worse than ethanol,  at least for Rotax 503 air cooled engines.  One observation we made was tiny tiny beads of some residue stuck to the plugs.  Our theory is  that they acted as tiny glow plugs and seemed to be causing detonation at higher power settings.

Gene Z





Regardless ,,,,,  based upon my personal observation of this phenomena,  I WILL NOT use "Premium Ethanol Free Gasoline" in my plane.

Gene Z

On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:57 PM, WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com (WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com) wrote:

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		    Kurt,

  

 Thank you very much for posting that Ethanol Free Gas site.  NJ state law prevents any gas stations from selling Ethanol Free gas.  But Pennsylvania law does allow it and I have found one station within 60 miles.  I passed the info on to my friends at EAA Chapter 216 - South Jersey.  Already two fellows have gone there and purchased gas and a couple more are getting tanks set up to do the same.  So, thank you again for this information.

  

 Bill Varnes

 Original FireStar

 Audubon, NJ

 Do Not Archive 

  

  In a message dated 7/16/2010 6:20:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, frank.goodnight(at)att.net (frank.goodnight(at)att.net) writes:

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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:12 am Post subject: MidValleyA/P: Good Gas

Many years ago, I also had the same problem of  small balls fouling the plugs { this was on 2 cycl motor bikes } The solution  turned out to be the oil and its mix ratio . Also one brand of petrol seemed to  have the problem more than other brands. Must say I have never had the problem  with fresh lead free fuel of any brand . Down her we have not gone to  ethanol fuels yet { or not that they will admit to}    I believe  our fuel to be of  poor quality and expensive at $1.76 a Ltr .

  

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