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		rickofudall
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				I couldn't sleep worth a darn last night so I finished the landing video. I hope this will give anyone transitioning to the Mk III a good idea of what the sight picture is like as you fly base, turn to final, and land. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ-YaW9WgEU
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				Rick,
    I enjoyed the video. Reminds me of the time I  talked my GA flight instructor to go for a ride with me in my Mark III, to sign  me off on a solo. I took it up to pattern altitude, kept it flying level until  the numbers were starting to disappear under the nose, pulled full flaps and hit  the numbers. I thought I did pretty well, but my instructor had been trying to  climb out through the top of the wing and he was quite white. He did sign me  off, but wouldn't fly with me again in it.
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		Thom Riddle
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: Landing video | 
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				Good job on the landings video, Rick.  Your full flap approach looks a lot like the no flap approach in my Slingshot.
 
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		rickofudall
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				Thanks Thom. It does take some getting used to. I stressed the eye's position so close to the ground because that was what was hardest for me to overcome. I'd be feeling for the runway, get a little slow and spend the evening renewing my friendship with Mr. Hydraulic Press. I just kept practicing at it. This another one I owe to Travis, who warned me about putting steel gear legs until I was truly ready for fear of damaging the fuselage truss. Just one of the many reasons I believe that Travis is a genius. He can tell you something in that quiet, friendly, way of his that makes you except it without thinking of anything but his kindness in sharing it with you.
  If some of you haven't had the pleasure of meeting him, you are missing a true treat. He, Denny, and the rest of their small crew is what makes this community jell, IMHO.
 These videos are a way I can pay back a little to those who have extended so much to me since I joined the Kolb Klatch.
  
 
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		John Hauck
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				Thanks Thom. It does take some getting  used to. I stressed the eye's position so close to the ground because that was  what was hardest for me to overcome. I'd be feeling for the runway, get a little  slow and spend the evening renewing my friendship with Mr. Hydraulic Press. I  just kept practicing at it.  
 
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  You looking at the ground or the runway a few two or three  hundred yards ahead of you?
   
  I find landings work a lot better if I don't look at the  ground.
   
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				No John, I have a big long "curb feeler", when I hear scraping I start to flare. :-}
 
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  I find landings work a lot better if I don't look at the  ground.
   
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				To be serious, I look at the ground in a scan just like I look at the sky when I'm flying. The trick is not to fixate on anything but take in as much visual information as you can. The camera has a fixed mounting, my head doesn't. To be perfectly honest I don't understand the point you are trying to make here.
 
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				To be serious, I look at the ground in  a scan just like I look at the sky when I'm flying. The trick is not to fixate  on anything but take in as much visual information as you can. The camera has a  fixed mounting, my head doesn't. To be perfectly honest I don't understand the point you are trying to make  here. 
 
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  Some folks have difficulty landing because they look down at  the ground under the aircraft, rather than looking out at the runway well ahead  of the aircraft.
   
  Depth perception gets screwed up looking under the  aircraft.
   
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:14 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				John, I don't know about you but I can't see under my airplane, it has a floor. I could open a door I suppose, but I'm a little busy to do that while I'm landing. :-}
 
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  Some folks have difficulty landing because they look down at  the ground under the aircraft, rather than looking out at the runway well ahead  of the aircraft.
   
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:36 pm    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				John, I don't know about you but I can't  see under my airplane, it has a floor. I could open a door I suppose, but I'm a  little busy to do that while I'm landing. :-} 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:14 am    Post subject: Landing video | 
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				How about we agree on the need to maintain a good scan of the landing area and not fixate on the area right in front of the aircraft.
 
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