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fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.c
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:58 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

test, to see how to place a question

BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:13 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

Good Morning Fritz,

  

 Your test worked perfectly and we all eager await your contribution.  However, may I suggest that for tests and other messages such as this one,  somewhere in the message please include the phrase   --  Do Not  Archive?

  

 That way no bandwidth will be wasted in the archives.

  

 Happy Skies,

  

 Old Bob

 AKA

 Bob Siegfried

 Stearman N3977A

 Downers Grove, Illinois

 LL22

  

  In a message dated 8/15/2010 6:58:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch writes:

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Clive J

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 340
Location: UK

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

Is that what that comments is for, I always wondered.



Mollis this weekend Fritz? Weather isn't looking very good for us to get

over from the UK.



Regards, Clive



Do Not Archive or is it already in from below.....



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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

As a helpful hint, I always include "do not archive" in my signature,  

then decide when I post something whether or not that post shall be  

given archive status. If I feel it should be archived, I just erase  

the "do not archive" line. The worst that can happen if I forget to  

erase that line is that something brilliant might not get saved.



Clive-

If the archive "sniffer" sees that phrase "do not archive" anywhere,  

it will not archive that message.....or so I'm told.



It's strange to see anyone actually posting in this forum....Jabiru  

on Matronics has been dead or sleeping for a long time as I'm recalling.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

do not archive



On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:31 AM, James, Clive R wrote:



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 <clive.james(at)uk.bp.com>



 Is that what that comments is for, I always wondered.



 Mollis this weekend Fritz? Weather isn't looking very good for us  

 to get

 over from the UK.



 Regards, Clive



 Do Not Archive or is it already in from below.....



 --

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

zeprep251(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

That's a little of the ,"no news is good news syndrome", when it comes to the Jabiru 2200 engine.

   G.Aman 569hrs 2200A Kolb MK3-C

    

  

     

  

    

     

  

     

  

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fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.c
Guest

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:39 pm Post subject: Jabiru 2200

Sorry for my bad behaviour, my original massage was refused, probably because I inserted 2 pictures. Now without pictures:

 

My Jab was running for some minutes to go from the parking area to the hold point. There I switched it off and some minutes later made it run again. 

 It was all different, strange noise, no power, as working with only 3 cylinders.. The faulty element was the exhaust valve pushrod cylinder 3 coming up beside the rocker. So the exhaust valve remained closed.  

 Tappet clearance was OK, checked 5 hour before this event, after the event lock nut and screw still tight in place. Valve spring OK, not broken. Pushrod is slightly flexed, less then 0,02", probably due to the fact to be squeezed between wall and rocker arm. The motor, solid valve lifter type has 300hours. Do you have any idea what I have to do, to replace to avoid this event in the future? Thank you for help  

Fritz; Jab 2200 with Rans-Coyote 

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naftalih(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:46 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

Replace pushrod and the adjusting screw.

   Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:18:37 +0200

From: fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch

To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Jabiru 2200

 Sorry for my bad behaviour, my original massage was refused, probably because I inserted 2 pictures. Now without pictures:

My Jab was running for some minutes to go from the parking area to the hold point. There I switched it off and some minutes later made it run again. 

It was all different, strange noise, no power, as working with only 3 cylinders.. The faulty element was the exhaust valve pushrod cylinder 3 coming up beside the rocker. So the exhaust valve remained closed.  

Tappet clearance was OK, checked 5 hour before this event, after the event lock nut and screw still tight in place. Valve spring OK, not broken. Pushrod is slightly flexed, less then 0,02", probably due to the fact to be squeezed between wall and rocker arm. The motor, solid valve lifter type has 300hours. Do you have any idea what I have to do, to replace to avoid this event in the future? Thank you for help  

Fritz; Jab 2200 with Rans-Coyote

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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Jabiru 2200

The problem with putting "do not archive" in the signature (profile) is that it is there for all messages you post that are not already archived. So if your intention is to delete the "do not archive" from your signature for a single post only, it will also delete it after the fact for all those not yet archived.



To prevent this all you have to do is develop the new habit of adding do not archive manually for every message except those you deem worth saving for posterity. Not hard to do but it requires a willingness to type 12 characters plus 2 spaces, every message you post.

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Buffalo, NY (9G0)

Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
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Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:02 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

I don't understand, Thom....when I make up my signature block, like I  

show below, it already has "do not archive" in it. If I decide that  

my comments are worthy of saving to archives, I just delete the "do  

not archive" line from the signature (after it appears on my post,  

but before it is sent), as shown further down. Why shouldn't this  

work? This keeps the signature block intact (with the "do not  

archive" line) for the next missive, but allows archiving of the one  

that I deleted the line from. At least that's the way it works on my  

Mac.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

do not archive



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying...1030 hrs (since 3-27-2006)



On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Thom Riddle wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <riddletr(at)gmail.com>



 The problem with putting "do not archive" in the signature  

 (profile) is that it is there for all messages you post that are  

 not already archived. So if your intention is to delete the "do not  

 archive" from your signature for a single post only, it will also  

 delete it after the fact for all those not yet archived.



 To prevent this all you have to do is develop the new habit of  

 adding do not archive manually for every message except those you  

 deem worth saving for posterity. Not hard to do but it requires a  

 willingness to type 12 characters plus 2 spaces, every message you  

 post.



 --------

 Thom Riddle

 Buffalo, NY (9G0)

 Kolb Slingshot SS-021

 Jabiru 2200A #1574

 Tennessee Prop 64x32

 The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

  - Gloria Steinem





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308970#308970

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Jabiru 2200

Lynn,



Maybe I'm mistaken or we are talking about two different things. The thing I'm talking about, the signature field you edit under PROFILE at the top of the Matronics Email Lists page, automatically updates whatever is in your signature field in all posts you made recently BEFORE it is archived. 



I just tested it by changing the quote at the end of my signature, and the old quote in the earlier message I posted this morning now reflects the new quote I just changed it to. In other words the signature is dynamic until it is archived.



Make a change in your signature, save the change, and then go back and look at the earlier messages you posted today. The new change will be there.



If you have a text file with your "signature" outside of the profile that you can copy and paste into each message, then that is a different thing entirely.



I hope this clarifies it a bit, but maybe not.

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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)

Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: Jabiru 2200

Yup, Thom, we were talking about two different things....I don't use  

the profile or any other Matronics gadgets. I get all the Matronics  

info...the day-to-day postings by people...via email, and the  

signature that is added to my postings/replies is one that I created  

right here on my Mac via my mail system's "Preferences" under  

"signatures".



In fact, I don't even need to copy and paste my signature.  Whenever  

I go to start a new message, or reply to anything, the signature is  

already there at the bottom before I even begin to type. All I have  

to do is to decide how much of the signature info I want to go out.  

If it's an email to a friend outside of the Matronics or Yahoo  

forums, I just delete everything except the "Lynn"



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying...1040+ hrs (since 3-27-2006)

do not archive



On Aug 16, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <riddletr(at)gmail.com>



 Lynn,



 Maybe I'm mistaken or we are talking about two different things.  

 The thing I'm talking about, the signature field you edit under  

 PROFILE at the top of the Matronics Email Lists page, automatically  

 updates whatever is in your signature field in all posts you made  

 recently BEFORE it is archived.



 I just tested it by changing the quote at the end of my signature,  

 and the old quote in the earlier message I posted this morning now  

 reflects the new quote I just changed it to. In other words the  

 signature is dynamic until it is archived.



 Make a change in your signature, save the change, and then go back  

 and look at the earlier messages you posted today. The new change  

 will be there.



 If you have a text file with your "signature" outside of the  

 profile that you can copy and paste into each message, then that is  

 a different thing entirely.



 I hope this clarifies it a bit, but maybe not.



 --------

 Thom Riddle

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Jabiru 2200

Lynn, 

That explains it alright. I never thought about using my iMac mail or Gmail signature instead of Matronics profile signature.



do not archive

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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)

Don't worry about old age... it doesn't last very long.
- Anonymous

zeprep251(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject: Jabiru 2200

Fritz,

  The valve had to stick open for the push rod to come off the rocker arm.You really should pull that head and check the guide and valve stem and the spring.The valve spring keeps everything in place.If the valve does not return fully to the seat,the rocker arm will allow the push rod to fall out of contact . 

    

  

     G.Aman

  

    

     

  

     

  

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kjburns(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: Jabiru 2200

Fritz,

  

 Other replies have not diagnosed the cause of your pushrod coming off, the cause of this problem on an engine of mine was a sticky valve stem, the valve did not close fully ,then the pushrod fell away from the retaining dome in the rocker arm.

  

 Sugested cause of the sticktion was contaminants from the fuel on an intake valve, ( a mix including unleaded had been used on the last flight prior to a lay up and had dried to form a gum).

  

 The head was removed and valves taken out ,valve guides then carefully reamed to remove deposits, after which the engine ran correctly.

  

 Finaly I decided on replacing the heads as I had a new set on order.

  

 I would advise checking "stiction" of your valves in their guides and cleaning of valve stems minimum, you may be able to inspect rubbing area of valve stem after removing exhaust pipe, to review leval of carbon build up removal methods etc.

  

 Regards

  

 Kevin



 

   From: fritzschaub <fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch>

To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Monday, 16 August, 2010 8:18:37

Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru 2200



Sorry for my bad behaviour, my original massage was refused, probably because I inserted 2 pictures. Now without pictures:

 

My Jab was running for some minutes to go from the parking area to the hold point. There I switched it off and some minutes later made it run again. 

It was all different, strange noise, no power, as working with only 3 cylinders.. The faulty element was the exhaust valve pushrod cylinder 3 coming up beside the rocker. So the exhaust valve remained closed.  

Tappet clearance was OK, checked 5 hour before this event, after the event lock nut and screw still tight in place. Valve spring OK, not broken. Pushrod is slightly flexed, less then 0,02", probably due to the fact to be squeezed between wall and rocker arm. The motor, solid valve lifter type has 300hours. Do you have any idea what I have to do, to replace to avoid this event in the future? Thank you for help  

Fritz; Jab 2200 with Rans-Coyote

[quote][b]http://www.matronics.com/N://forums.matronics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://forums.matr   --> [b]

rickofudall

Joined: 19 Sep 2009
Posts: 1392
Location: Udall, KS, USA

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: Jabiru 2200

You might want to try a little Marvel Mystery Oil in your gas per their recommendations. I use it as an alternate form of compliance to a SB on my HKS for valve sticking, guide wear. Works great.



Rick Girard

 

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:37 PM, K BURNS <kjburns(at)btinternet.com (kjburns(at)btinternet.com)> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Fritz,

  

 Other replies have not diagnosed the cause of your pushrod coming off, the cause of this problem on an engine of mine was a sticky valve stem, the valve did not close fully ,then the pushrod fell away from the retaining dome in the rocker arm.

   

 Sugested cause of the sticktion was contaminants from the fuel on an intake valve, ( a mix including unleaded had been used on the last flight prior to a lay up and had dried to form a gum).

  

 The head was removed and valves taken out ,valve guides then carefully reamed to remove deposits, after which the engine ran correctly.

  

 Finaly I decided on replacing the heads as I had a new set on order.

  

 I would advise checking "stiction" of your valves in their guides and cleaning of valve stems minimum, you may be able to inspect rubbing area of valve stem after removing exhaust pipe, to review leval of carbon build up removal methods etc.

   

 Regards

  

 Kevin



 

   From: fritzschaub <fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch (fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch)>

To: jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)

 Sent: Monday, 16 August, 2010 8:18:37

Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru 2200



Sorry for my bad behaviour, my original massage was refused, probably because I inserted 2 pictures. Now without pictures:

  

My Jab was running for some minutes to go from the parking area to the hold point. There I switched it off and some minutes later made it run again. 

 It was all different, strange noise, no power, as working with only 3 cylinders.. The faulty element was the exhaust valve pushrod cylinder 3 coming up beside the rocker. So the exhaust valve remained closed.  

Tappet clearance was OK, checked 5 hour before this event, after the event lock nut and screw still tight in place. Valve spring OK, not broken. Pushrod is slightly flexed, less then 0,02", probably due to the fact to be squeezed between wall and rocker arm. The motor, solid valve lifter type has 300hours. Do you have any idea what I have to do, to replace to avoid this event in the future? Thank you for help   

Fritz; Jab 2200 with Rans-Coyote

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Zulu Delta

Kolb Mk IIIC

582 Gray head

4.00 C gearbox

3 blade WD

Thanks, Homer GBYM

 



It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.

 - G.K. Chesterton

 

 

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tonyplane(at)bellsouth.ne
Guest

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject: Jabiru 2200

I do not wish to start any controversy over any fuel additives, but I have close to 600 trouble free hrs on my Jab 3300, s/n

33A644.  A few years ago I would occasionally hear a "ting" when I would pull the prop

through by hand during preflight for an Armstrong compression check  I suspected the "ting" might be caused by a valve momentarily sticking.   I started using 2 oz of Marvel Mystery Oil per 5 gal of fuel, mostly 93 octane (U.S.) alcohol free and some 100LL.  Since then I recall no "ting". 

Tony Graziano



Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com (aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com)> wrote:



[quote]You might want to try a little Marvel Mystery Oil in your gas per their recommendations. I use it as an alternate form of compliance to a SB on my HKS for valve sticking, guide wear. Works great.



Rick Girard

 

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:37 PM, K BURNS <[url=mailto:kjburns(at)btinternet.com]kjburns(at)btinternet.com (kjburns(at)btinternet.com)[/url]> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Fritz,

  

 Other replies have not diagnosed the cause of your pushrod coming off, the cause of this problem on an engine of mine was a sticky valve stem, the valve did not close fully ,then the pushrod fell away from the retaining dome in the rocker arm.

   

 Sugested cause of the sticktion was contaminants from the fuel on an intake valve, ( a mix including unleaded had been used on the last flight prior to a lay up and had dried to form a gum).

  

 The head was removed and valves taken out ,valve guides then carefully reamed to remove deposits, after which the engine ran correctly.

  

 Finaly I decided on replacing the heads as I had a new set on order.

  

 I would advise checking "stiction" of your valves in their guides and cleaning of valve stems minimum, you may be able to inspect rubbing area of valve stem after removing exhaust pipe, to review leval of carbon build up removal methods etc.

   

 Regards

  

 Kevin



 

   From: fritzschaub <[url=mailto:fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch]fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch (fritz_schaub(at)bluewin.ch)[/url]>

To: [url=mailto:jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com]jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com (jabiruengine-list(at)matronics.com)[/url]

 Sent: Monday, 16 August, 2010 8:18:37

Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru 2200



Sorry for my bad behaviour, my original massage was refused, probably because I inserted 2 pictures. Now without pictures:

  

My Jab was running for some minutes to go from the parking area to the hold point. There I switched it off and some minutes later made it run again. 

 It was all different, strange noise, no power, as working with only 3 cylinders.. The faulty element was the exhaust valve pushrod cylinder 3 coming up beside the rocker. So the exhaust valve remained closed.  

Tappet clearance was OK, checked 5 hour before this event, after the event lock nut and screw still tight in place. Valve spring OK, not broken. Pushrod is slightly flexed, less then 0,02", probably due to the fact to be squeezed between wall and rocker arm. The motor, solid valve lifter type has 300hours. Do you have any idea what I have to do, to replace to avoid this event in the future? Thank you for help   

Fritz; Jab 2200 with Rans-Coyote

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Zulu Delta

Kolb Mk IIIC

582 Gray head

4.00 C gearbox

3 blade WD

Thanks, Homer GBYM

 



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