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		occom
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:46 am    Post subject: 582 oil question | 
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				I noticed recently that Castrol two stroke has been  replaced with Castrol Snowmobile two stroke oil. Both have the required  ratings but the new oil seems thinner. 
   
  What are other two stroke owners using now the  preferred Pennsoil no longer appears to be available?  
   
   
  Dave Goddard
 KF IV 1050 / 582 /  Warp
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		akflyer
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: 582 oil question | 
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				I have been running the CITGO sea n snow for several years.  I use it in the airplane, snow machine and boat.  On my snowmachines we have what are called power valves, and it is basically a variable port on the exhaust.  When running the manufactures oil (Arctic Power Valve oil) you have to pull the valves and clean them about every 25 hrs or so or you will start breaking the cable that actuates them.  Since I have switched to the CITGO I have NEVER had to clean the power valves (I pull them and check them once or twice a season and put them right back in).  I have used it in the 582 in the plane since the first start up, and have not had to de-carbon yet (160+hrs).  By pulling the exhaust and intake I can see the ring grooves are clean and no build up on the head of the pistons.  The kicker is the APV oil is $40 a gallon, and the CITGO is $11 or $12 a gallon.
 
 We are running this oil in several planes here the last few years with no issues!
 
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Soldotna AK
 
Avid "C" / Mk IV 
 
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
IVO IFA
 
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		dwight purdy
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject: 582 oil question | 
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				I have not been able to find a source here in Indiana.
 
 Dwifgt Purdy
 Model ll 503
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  I have been running the CITGO sea n ski for several years.  I use it in the
  airplane, snow machine and boat.  On my snowmachines we have what are called
  power valves, and it is basically a variable port on the exhaust.  When running
  the manufactures oil (Arctic Power Valve oil) you have to pull the valves and
  clean them about every 25 hrs or so or you will start breaking the cable that
  actuates them.  Since I have switched to the CITGO I have NEVER had to clean the
  power valves (I pull them and check them once or twice a season and put them
  right back in).  I have used it in the 582 in the plane since the first start
  up, and have not had to de-carbon yet (160+hrs).  By pulling the exhaust and
  intake I can see the ring grooves are clean and no build up on the head of the
  pistons.  The kicker is the APV oil is $40 a gallon, and the CITGO is $11 or $12
  a gallon.
 
  We are running this oil in several planes here the last few years with no
  issues!
 
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  Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
  Soldotna AK
  Avid "C" / Mk IV
  582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
  IVO IFA
  Full Lotus 1450
  #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
  I would rather die trying to live, than to live trying not to die....
 
 
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		thesupe(at)hotmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: 582 oil question | 
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				After reading your posts last year saying how good the citgo oil was, I switched to it for my 532 Rotax.  It does seem to burn real clean, less oily exhaust stains on the gear legs with it than I was getting with the Pennsoil.  It's good oil in my opinion!  take care,  Jim Chuk  Avids, Kitfox 4 (building)  Mn
  
  > Subject: Re: 582 oil question
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  Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 08:16:47 -0700
  To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
  
  --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000(at)yahoo.com>
  
  I have been running the CITGO sea n ski for several years. I use it in the airplane, snow machine and boat. On my snowmachines we have what are called power valves, and it is basically a variable port on the exhaust. When running the manufactures oil (Arctic Power Valve oil) you have to pull the valves and clean them about every 25 hrs or so or you will start breaking the cable that actuates them. Since I have switched to the CITGO I have NEVER had to clean the power valves (I pull them and check them once or twice a season and put them right back in). I have used it in the 582 in the plane since the first start up, and have not had to de-carbon yet (160+hrs). By pulling the exhaust and intake I can see the ring grooves are clean and no build up on the head of the pistons. The kicker is the APV oil is $40 a gallon, and the CITGO is $11 or $12 a gallon.
  
  We are running this oil in several planes here the last few years with no issues!
  
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  Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
  Soldotna AK
  Avid "C" / Mk IV 
  582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
  IVO IFA
  Full Lotus 1450
  #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
  
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		Guy Buchanan
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: 582 oil question | 
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				On 10/9/2010 8:16 AM, akflyer wrote:  	  | Quote: | 	 		      	  | Quote: | 	 		  We are running this oil in several planes here the last few years with no issues!
    | 	    | 	   Leonard and the rest,
      Any idea where I can find this oil in the SoCal area or on-line?
  
  Thanks,
  
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		akflyer
 
  
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				 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Re: 582 oil question | 
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				Jim, I cant believe you bought some of the snake oil I promoted ha ha.  Just kidding, it's a great oil, I just had to make a reference to the snake oil salesman thing..
 
 Guy,
 
 I would google CITGO and call there customer service and find out if there is a store near you, or any bulk petroleum sales outlet that carries it.  We dont have any CITGO stations in our area, and I have to drive 180 miles to get mine, but I buy 10+ cases at a time so it makes it well worth it!
 
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Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
 
Soldotna AK
 
Avid "C" / Mk IV 
 
582 (147 hrs and counting on the rebuild)
 
IVO IFA
 
Full Lotus 1450
 
#1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
 
 
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