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danny shepherd

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Location: north Wales, United Kingdom

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: build cost

Hi All,

          Just read "Owning & Operating" in Today's Pilot, featuring 

Bryan Allsop's Europa (Sadie).  Steve Beebee who wrote the article 

states that  the build cost should be about 33k. Have I done something 

wrong ? so far I have spent 35k and have yet to purchase the engine and 

avionics. :'(



Danny  G-c.e.r.i



getting close and still raiding the piggy bank

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EuropaXSA276(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:14 am Post subject: build cost

Danny:

It is apparent that you and I are using the same accountant. 

Cant be done for 33k

ESPECIALLY since Keith gave me the opportunity to purchase some components 

twice!



Do not archive. 



Brian Skelly

Europa XS TriGear #A276

North Texas USA

You can see my build photos at:

http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS

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sqwk7000(at)cotswoldwirel
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: build cost

Hi,



I agree.  Mine, completed nearly 3 years ago cost GBP40,000 and that was

using kit purchased in 1994.  Recently, I have seen it realistically

costed at GBP79,000 for someone starting now.



BTW mine is still for sale at araound the GBP30,000 mark!



David

G-SHSH  Mono Classic 912, TT 43 hours



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 Danny:

 It is apparent that you and I are using the same accountant.

 Cant be done for 33k

 ESPECIALLY since Keith gave me the opportunity to purchase some components

 twice!



 Do not archive.



 Brian Skelly

 Europa XS TriGear #A276

 North Texas USA

 You can see my build photos at:

 http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS

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bryan(at)blackballclub.co
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: build cost

Hi Danny,



I have not read Steve's article yet, but you must bear in mind that he is a 

reporter!!! I cannot recall what I said to him, but I am quite sure that my 

opinion is not that you can build a Europa today for  33k.



I finished building Sadie in December 1999, and she cost me about 35k then, 

so it must be a lot more now.



Having said that, if you have yet to purchase the engine and avionics, where 

did the rest of the money go?



I must dash out and buy a copy of Today's Pilot now and find out what else I 

have not said. Did he feature the heated seats ,and the leopard skin 

curtains?



Cheers  Bryan



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danny shepherd

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Location: north Wales, United Kingdom

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: build cost

Hi Bryan,



I must admit I had the accelerated stage one kit which added almost 3k. 

I also haven't skimped with the mods, ie finger brakes, fuel gauge, inst 

panel, stall warner, strobes, graham Singleton's firewall and rudder 

mod, led nav lights (Fred Klien) etc etc. Also had the panel Nexeled and 

fitted the instruments. I seem to have spent a kings ransom with Spruce!!



On the up side, My baby ( as the wife calls her ) is nearly ready for 

final painting. Hopefully I will be fitting the engine in September.



Sorry no mention of the heated seats and leopard skin curtains!!!



Cheers Danny

 G-c.e.r.i



Bryan Allsop wrote:



[quote]



Hi Danny,



I have not read Steve's article yet, but you must bear in mind that he is a 

reporter!!! I cannot recall what I said to him, but I am quite sure that my 

opinion is not that you can build a Europa today for  33k.



I finished building Sadie in December 1999, and she cost me about 35k then, 

so it must be a lot more now.



Having said that, if you have yet to purchase the engine and avionics, where 

did the rest of the money go?



I must dash out and buy a copy of Today's Pilot now and find out what else I 

have not said. Did he feature the heated seats ,and the leopard skin 

curtains?



Cheers  Bryan



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mooredca(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: build cost

Danny, Bryan & All,



Congratulations to Bryan on an excellent article in 'Today's Pilot'.  It =

is a great credit to Bryan and 'Sadie' in particular, and to the Europa =

breed in general.  (I have to say this, as I'm hoping to fly to Colditz =

with Bryan in a couple of weeks time..!!).  Indeed, a very sound and =

pragmatic feature on the Europa XS, which I hope will boost the type's =

sales.  Well done, Bryan.



As to cost...  I started building Monowheel 550 in 2003 and have kept a =

fair account of costs.  I will be lucky to get the thing into the air =

for less than GBP55K (perhaps nearer GBP60K) & that's with a second hand =

Rotax.  I guess that's in line with your build cost, Danny. =20



I'd concur that a 2006 cost would indeed be GBP79+K.  (I'm talking as a =

UK builder).



However, not a moment's regret.  I just hope my good lady doesn't read =

the Europa List..!



Dave.



Monowheel #550. =20

Aberdeen, UK

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danny shepherd

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Location: north Wales, United Kingdom

Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: build cost

Dave,



I agree whole heartedly, no regrets. ( specially as I've finished the 

messy bits ) Hell it's only money    



Danny.



Dave Moore wrote:



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Danny, Bryan & All,



Congratulations to Bryan on an excellent article in 'Today's Pilot'.  It =

is a great credit to Bryan and 'Sadie' in particular, and to the Europa =

breed in general.  (I have to say this, as I'm hoping to fly to Colditz =

with Bryan in a couple of weeks time..!!).  Indeed, a very sound and =

pragmatic feature on the Europa XS, which I hope will boost the type's =

sales.  Well done, Bryan.



As to cost...  I started building Monowheel 550 in 2003 and have kept a =

fair account of costs.  I will be lucky to get the thing into the air =

for less than GBP55K (perhaps nearer GBP60K) & that's with a second hand =

Rotax.  I guess that's in line with your build cost, Danny. =20



I'd concur that a 2006 cost would indeed be GBP79+K.  (I'm talking as a =

UK builder).



However, not a moment's regret.  I just hope my good lady doesn't read =

the Europa List..!



Dave.



Monowheel #550. =20

Aberdeen, UK

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bryan(at)blackballclub.co
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: build cost

Thanks for those kind words Dave,



I promise that when you come with me to Colditz that I will have the GPS the 

right way up. According to the photograph we are going to have to fly upside 

down or backwards to find our way there. I don't fancy either.



Cheers Bryan

Do not archive.

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