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For all the replies on my question about avionics upgrades, Thank you. Now I have more to think about while I sand the fiberglas smooth.
John
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1. 06:11 AM - updating avionics (John Long)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: updating avionics (Francis Herr)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: updating avionics (Georg Isenbuerger)
4. 06:41 AM - Re: updating avionics (Steve Thomas)
5. 07:01 AM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin)
6. 07:24 AM - Re: updating avionics (Larry Bowen)
7. 07:46 AM - Re: updating avionics (John Grosse)
8. 07:46 AM - Re: updating avionics (John Grosse)
9. 08:12 AM - Re: updating avionics (Larry Mac Donald)
10. 02:35 PM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin)
11. 02:35 PM - Re: updating avionics (William L. Paulin)
12. 10:02 PM - Re: updating avionics (William J Hamilton)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 06:11:03 AM PST US
Subject: Avionics-List: updating avionics
From: John Long <johnlong63(at)gmail.com (johnlong63(at)gmail.com)>
I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327.
with a 696.
All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBook.
Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates
should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7.
Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to
look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for
the upgrades?
John
(fiberglas finishing)
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 06:36:44 AM PST US
From: Francis Herr <fherr(at)cfl.rr.com (fherr(at)cfl.rr.com)>
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics
John,
I too own Mac computers and have the same upgrade issues. To solve them,
I bought a $70 desktop from Craig's list for the airport. I can download
files to a Mac and take them to the PC via thumb drive.
I am not familiar with the Dynon upgrade process; however, my system
uses an SD card for updates, which means the PC can be anywhere.
Francis
On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, John Long wrote:
I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30,
GTX-327. with a 696.
All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a
MacBook.
Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates
should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7.
Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need
to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport
for the upgrades?
John
(fiberglas finishing)
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 06:36:45 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Avionics-List: updating avionics
From: Georg Isenbuerger <gi(at)av8r.de (gi(at)av8r.de)>
John,
Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching Ope
rating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars or
Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container. It
allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to partition the
hard disk and rebooting all the time.
Regards
George
Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63(at)gmail.com (johnlong63(at)gmail.com)>:
Quote: | I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. w
ith a 696.
|
Quote: |
All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBoo
k.
|
Quote: |
Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates s
hould work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7.
|
Quote: |
Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to
look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for t
|
he upgrades?
Quote: |
John
(fiberglas finishing)
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________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 06:41:20 AM PST US
Subject: Re: updating avionics
From: Steve Thomas <lists(at)stevet.net (lists(at)stevet.net)>
What is the method for updating the device? Is it a simple matter of transferring
files or does Dynon require a proprietary software program to do it? I have
Blue Mountain equipment and it uses a simple FTP procedure to update files.
So, any computer with a good FTP client can do it. If Dynon uses proprietary
software, all I can say is, "Shame on them."
Having said that, running bootcamp on a Mac is the same thing as having a Windows
based machine. In some early testing, Windows ran faster under bootcamp than
it did on some Windows machines. I use Parallels on my Mac and that allows
me to run Windows in a window on top of OS X. Much more convenient.
I see no reason to buy a specialized machine.
Steve Thomas
________________________________________________________________________
On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:07 AM, John Long wrote:
Quote: | I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327. with
a 696.
|
Quote: |
All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a MacBook.
Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates should
work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7.
|
Quote: |
Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to look
out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for the upgrades?
|
>
Quote: | John
(fiberglas finishing)
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________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
Time: 07:01:04 AM PST US
From: "William L. Paulin" <wpaulin(at)usa.net (wpaulin(at)usa.net)>
Subject: Re: updating avionics
Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp.
I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too ... but
I have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC based
software.
Bill
*********************************
William L. Paulin, Ph.D.
PaulinNeal Associates
1575 South Forest Drive
Prescott, AZ 86303
Cell +1 858 722 2905
Office +1 760 720 2905
Europe +358 40 720 4047
wpaulin(at)paulinneal.com (wpaulin(at)paulinneal.com)
On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote:
John,
Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching
Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80
Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual
container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle
to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time.
Regards
George
Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63(at)gmail.com (johnlong63(at)gmail.com)>:
Quote: | I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30,
GTX-327. with a 696.
|
Quote: |
All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a
MacBook.
|
Quote: |
Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the
updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing
|
Windows 7.
Quote: |
Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I
need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the
|
airport for the upgrades?
Quote: |
John
(fiberglas finishing)
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________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
Time: 07:24:06 AM PST US
Subject: Re: updating avionics
From: Larry Bowen <larry(at)bowenaero.com (larry(at)bowenaero.com)>
Virtualbox might work.
http://virtualbox.org
--
Larry Bowen
Larry(at)BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:57 AM, William L. Paulin <wpaulin(at)usa.net (wpaulin(at)usa.net)> wrote:
Quote: | Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp.
I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too ... but I
have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC based software.
>
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Quote: | Bill
*********************************
William L. Paulin, Ph.D.
PaulinNeal Associates
1575 South Forest Drive
Prescott, AZ 86303
Cell +1 858 722 2905
> Office +1 760 720 2905
|
Quote: | John,
Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switching
Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80 Dollars
or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual container.
> It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassle to partition
|
Quote: | the hard disk and rebooting all the time.
Regards
George
Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63(at)gmail.com (johnlong63(at)gmail.com)>:
>
|
Quote: | I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-327.
with a 696.
All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a
> MacBook.
|
Quote: |
Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates
should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7.
Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need to
> look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airport for
|
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
Time: 07:46:49 AM PST US
From: John Grosse <grosseair(at)comcast.net (grosseair(at)comcast.net)>
Subject: Re: updating avionics
I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do
have to reboot to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month
so it's really no big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and
it works fine. I wouldn't waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The
Mac is so much better that I really only use Windows for one program.
Check with Dynon and see what version they require to do the upgrades.
Good luck.
John Grosse
Quote: | >
> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have
>> a MacBook.
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Quote: | >
> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the
> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating
> purchasing Windows 7.
>>
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Quote: | > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things
> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take
> to the airport for the upgrades?
>>
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Quote: | > John
> (fiberglas finishing)
>
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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
Time: 07:46:51 AM PST US
From: John Grosse <grosseair(at)comcast.net (grosseair(at)comcast.net)>
Subject: Re: updating avionics
I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do
have to reboot to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month
so it's really no big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and
it works fine. I wouldn't waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The
Mac is so much better that I really only use Windows for one program.
Check with Dynon and see what version they require to do the upgrades.
Good luck.
John Grosse
Larry Bowen wrote:
Quote: |
Agreed on the don't use Bootcamp.
I use VMWare Fusion, instead of Parallels and it works fine too
> ... but I have not used it with avionics ... just several other PC
|
Quote: | based software.
Bill
*********************************
William L. Paulin, Ph.D.
PaulinNeal Associates
> 1575 South Forest Drive
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Quote: | On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote:
John,
Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever
switching Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels
> for about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in
|
Quote: | a so called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the
same time without the hassle to partition the hard disk and
> rebooting all the time.
|
Quote: |
> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30,
> GTX-327. with a 696.
>>
|
Quote: | > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
>
> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have
> a MacBook.
>
> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the
>> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating
|
Quote: | > purchasing Windows 7.
>
> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things
> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take
>> to the airport for the upgrades?
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________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________
Time: 08:12:59 AM PST US
From: Larry Mac Donald <lm4(at)juno.com (lm4(at)juno.com)>
Subject: Re: updating avionics
I bought "vmWare fusion 3" . It was an easy download.
Then I loaded windows 95 and now I can drag and drop
files between the two os systems. Really kind of cool.
Larry
On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote:
Quote: | Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever switchi
ng Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for about 80
|
Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so called virtual
container. It allows you to run both at the same time without the hassl
e to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the time.
> Regards
Quote: | > I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30, GTX-
327. with a 696.
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Quote: | > All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
>
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Quote: | > My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a M
acBook.
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Quote: | > Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the upda
tes should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Window
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s 7.
Quote: | > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I ne
ed to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the airp
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ort for the upgrades?
Quote: | > John
> (fiberglas finishing)
>
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________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________
Time: 02:35:39 PM PST US
Subject: Re: updating avionics
From: "William L. Paulin" <wpaulin(at)usa.net (wpaulin(at)usa.net)>
I could not agree more about Mac vs. PC. Every time I use my Fusion to use a PC
program, I am reminded how crumby the Microsoft world is ... and how simple
the Mac is. I switched when Microsoft went to that Never Never land of charging
for a "downgrade" from Vista to XP.
Bill
*********************************
William L. Paulin, Ph.D.
PaulinNeal Associates
1575 South Forest Drive
Prescott, AZ 86303
Cell +1 858 722 2905
Office +1 760 720 2905
Europe +358 40 720 4047
wpaulin(at)paulinneal.com (wpaulin(at)paulinneal.com)
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:42 AM, John Grosse wrote:
I have a similar situation, and I used Bootcamp to set it up. You do have to reboot
to load Windows, but I only do it once or twice a month so it's really no
big deal. I bought a cheap copy of Windows on eBay and it works fine. I wouldn't
waste my money on Win 7 unless I had to. The Mac is so much better that I
really only use Windows for one program. Check with Dynon and see what version
they require to do the upgrades.
Good luck.
John Grosse
Quote: | >
> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have
>> a MacBook.
|
Quote: | >
> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the
> updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating
> purchasing Windows 7.
>>
|
Quote: | > Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things
> I need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take
> to the airport for the upgrades?
>
>> John
|
Quote: | > (fiberglas finishing)
>
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________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________
Time: 02:35:39 PM PST US
From: "William L. Paulin" <wpaulin(at)usa.net (wpaulin(at)usa.net)>
Subject: Re: updating avionics
Yes, that is what I do ... when I am forced to use a PC program.
Bill
***********************************
William & Sandra Paulin
1575 South Forest Drive
Prescott, AZ 86303
Bill
Cell +1 858 722 2905
Office +1 760 720 2905
Europe +358 40 720 4047
wpaulin(at)usa.net (wpaulin(at)usa.net)
Sandy
Cell +1 858 349 1729
Office +1 928 443 7739
On Dec 27, 2010, at 8:08 AM, Larry Mac Donald wrote:
I bought "vmWare fusion 3" . It was an easy download.
Then I loaded windows 95 and now I can drag and drop
files between the two os systems. Really kind of cool.
Larry
On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Georg Isenbuerger wrote:
Quote: | John,
Do not use Bootcamp. You would have to reboot the MAC whenever
switching Operating Systems. Better use virtualisation: Parallels for
|
about 80 Dollars or Virtualbox for free. You install Win 7 in a so
called virtual container. It allows you to run both at the same time
without the hassle to partition the hard disk and rebooting all the
time.
Quote: |
Regards
George
Am 27.12.2010 um 15:07 schrieb John Long <johnlong63(at)gmail.com (johnlong63(at)gmail.com)>:
> I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30,
GTX-327. with a 696.
|
Quote: | >
> All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
>
> My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a
MacBook.
|
Quote: | >
> Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the
updates should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing
|
Windows 7.
Quote: | >
> Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I
need to look out for or should I get a PC based laptop to take to the
|
airport for the upgrades?
Quote: | >
> John
> (fiberglas finishing)
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________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________
Time: 10:02:06 PM PST US
From: William J Hamilton <wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au (wjrhamilton(at)optusnet.com.au)>
Subject: Re: updating avionics
John,
Given how cheap Windows laptops (with Windows 7) have become, why leave yourself
open to any hassles, particularly ones that may not be obvious, until you fire
them up in the aircraft.
I have observed some less than satisfactory results running the Windows emulation
on a Macbook.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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Quote: | I am finishing my RV-8. I have DYNON 180 plus HS-34 and SL-30,
GTX-327.
with a 696.
All have capability to be up dated in the aircraft.
My old PC based lap top died a couple of years ago and I now have a
> MacBook.
|
Quote: |
Dynon says if I am running bootcamp with Windows 7 installed the updates
should work fine. I have bootcamp and am debating purchasing Windows 7.
Does anyone have experience using this set-up? Are there things I need
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