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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:39 am    Post subject: MkIII Xtra V speeds Reply with quote

Kolb guys, and especially Travis,
 
  I am in the process of rounding up information for my
Operator Limitations manual for my plane.  Could I get a few
of you Xtra owners to post your "V" speeds below in the list I
have provided.
 
  Also, Travis, would you be kind enough to post the factory
recommended speeds for these catagories, please? 
 
1) Vso--(stall speed, or min. flight speed in 'landing' configuration {flaps down})_________________
2) Vs--(min. controllable airspeed in steady state flight {flaps up}____________________
3) Vfe--(maximun 'flap extended' stall speed)____________________________________
4) Vno--(max speed for 'normal' operations)_________________________________
5) Vne--(never exceed speed)_____________________________________________
 
  The Kolb factory states that the MkIII Xtra has a 35 mph stall speed, and 26 mph
stall speed with flaps extended.  Is this pretty close to what you Xtra owners are
experiencing?
 
  You response is appeciated.  Thanks!!!
 
Mike Welch
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: MkIII Xtra V speeds Reply with quote

Hi Mike
Stats are.
Mk3xtra with Jab 2200. MAUV 943 lbs

Stall flaps up.engine off 35mph
Flaps down. 5mph less
Cruise happily 50 to 80.
I usually use around 70 to 75mph
Ticketed at Vne 95mph
Ticketed. Flaps down 60mph
Min pilot weight with no ballast. 170 lbs.

I usually take off single stage flap/climb out around 50mph.
Land . Flaps down, engine idle around 50. bleed the speed over the hedge.

Cheers

Pat
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: MkIII Xtra V speeds Reply with quote

Mike,

Using Pat's numbers you can come up with pretty accurate stall speed estimates at different flying weights by using the fact that a change in stall speed varies with the square root of the change in weight.

Baseline
Flying weight of 943 lbs
Stall speeds 35 and 30

Examples:
If flying 10% heavier, 1.1 x 943 = 1,037 lbs...
Stall speeds should be 1.1^.5 = 1.049 ==>> 36.7 and 31.5

If flying 15% lighter, .85 x 943 = 802 lbs...
Stall speeds should be .85^.5 = .922 ==>> 32.3 and 27.7

Vfe and Vne don't vary with flying weight.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: MkIII Xtra V speeds Reply with quote

> Mike,
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Using Pat's numbers you can come up with pretty accurate stall speed estimates at different flying weights by using the fact that a change in stall speed varies with the square root of the change in weight.
Thom Riddle

Thanks Thom!!
 
  You are correct, and I hadn't taken that into account, yet.  Also, thanks to
Pat for the V speed numbers.  They do coincide with what I was expecting.
 
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