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jgamtmann2(at)gmail.com
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 Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: cable ties |
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To those of you having trouble with cable tie injuries, try a relatively inexpensive ($31) tensioning tool from Waytek. It has a cutter that cuts so close to the tie head that you can't feel the edges. Try tool #412, and use Thomas & Betts "Ty-Rap" brand ties. Never had a problem with injuries with this combination. The jewelers' diags that Bob mentioned work also on a lower budget.
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: cable ties |
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Although I have seen those tools I have never seen one used in aviation... Too bad... they work.
Noel
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Janet Amtmann
Sent: January 24, 2011 5:20 PM
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Subject: cable ties
To those of you having trouble with cable tie injuries, try a relatively inexpensive ($31) tensioning tool from Waytek. It has a cutter that cuts so close to the tie head that you can't feel the edges. Try tool #412, and use Thomas & Betts "Ty-Rap" brand ties. Never had a problem with injuries with this combination. The jewelers' diags that Bob mentioned work also on a lower budget.
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Jürgen Amtmann
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stein(at)steinair.com
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:16 am Post subject: cable ties |
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The reason we don’t use them extensively in aviation is they are sometimes really difficult to actually use in the places/locations you’d want to use them (up under panels, etc..). The “automatic tools” frankly can be clunky to use in confined areas. We own several, but usually choose to use a little $8 flush cutter / diagonal flush cutter (the more expensive ones are slightly higher in quality). Much easier, faster, cheaper…and much smaller.
My vote is for the flush cutters…and I feel your pain! Lots of scratched hands/arms over the years of doing this!
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:55 AM
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Subject: RE: cable ties
Although I have seen those tools I have never seen one used in aviation... Too bad... they work.
Noel
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Janet Amtmann
Sent: January 24, 2011 5:20 PM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: cable ties
To those of you having trouble with cable tie injuries, try a relatively inexpensive ($31) tensioning tool from Waytek. It has a cutter that cuts so close to the tie head that you can't feel the edges. Try tool #412, and use Thomas & Betts "Ty-Rap" brand ties. Never had a problem with injuries with this combination. The jewelers' diags that Bob mentioned work also on a lower budget.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: cable ties |
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At 12:54 PM 1/25/2011, you wrote:
| Quote: | Although I have seen those tools I have never seen one used in
aviation... Too bad... they work.
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Our guys on the line and in experimental flight used
them all the time. They were too bulky for my very compact
'engineers toolbox' so I never owned one . . . the
flush-cutter had to suffice. But it wasn't uncommon
for one of the techs to hand me his tool if he observed
my 'neanderthal' techniques. At least I wasn't chewing them
off with my teeth!
Bob . . .
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harley(at)AgelessWings.co
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: cable ties |
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That's the biggest reason I liked that little T&B unit (WT1-TB) I directed you to in an earlier message today...it is small, fits in the palm of your hand and can be used anyplace that you can get your closed hand and point your finger at.
It worked great in all the tight places in the systems I designed at Pennwalt. And it cuts the tie off flush with the buckle.
Harley
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At 12:54 PM 1/25/2011, you wrote:
| Quote: | Although I have seen those tools I have never seen one used in aviation... Too bad... they work.
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Our guys on the line and in experimental flight used
them all the time. They were too bulky for my very compact
'engineers toolbox' so I never owned one . . . the
flush-cutter had to suffice. But it wasn't uncommon
for one of the techs to hand me his tool if he observed
my 'neanderthal' techniques. At least I wasn't chewing them
off with my teeth!
Bob . . .
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: cable ties |
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I don't like seeing... make that feeling the tie wraps but on occasion I do
use them... whenever I do I use the small side cuts but I always make one
or two passes over the cut end with a piece of reasonably fine grit
sandpaper. So far I have yet to cut myself on a tie wrap that I have
personally installed.
Speaking of which I now have to do the wiring on my 912 installation. After
that controls... Gee its cold outside. Supposed to go up to the green side
of 0C Thursday.
Noel
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rlborger(at)mac.com
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: cable ties |
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Gents,
My 2¢... Personally, I like Cobra Cable Ties ( http://cobracabletie.com/ ). They are low profile and the trimmed end is protected when trimmed properly. Ya, they cost a bit more than the cheepo stuff, but I think they are worth it.
Bob Borger
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On Jan 25, 2011, at 14:38, Noel Loveys wrote:
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I don't like seeing... make that feeling the tie wraps but on occasion I do
use them... whenever I do I use the small side cuts but I always make one
or two passes over the cut end with a piece of reasonably fine grit
sandpaper. So far I have yet to cut myself on a tie wrap that I have
personally installed.
Speaking of which I now have to do the wiring on my 912 installation. After
that controls... Gee its cold outside. Supposed to go up to the green side
of 0C Thursday.
Noel
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