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 Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: 701 down. |
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Hello David,
First my best wishes for his fast and full recovery ...
Transition flying from another 701 pilot is Much much better that a helmet...
The 701 is a very safe aircraft. But needs to get used to the way it flys and the lack of inertia.
Engine out: Push the joke full forward first, then pull a little as needed to keep 50- 60 mph ) indicated (yes, looks scary, but will not do an inverted loop  until almost touch down, then gently level and flare (if possible), keep calm during the hole process and probaly will bend the plane a little, but will come out unharmed...
Also, practice emergencies and engine off aproaches, when no specific place to go, instead of just burning gasoline around the airport, great experience gained when the "real thing" happens, "if" ever happens... a well mantained engine and aircraft is the best insurance than a helmet...
Gary Gower
701 912S 300 + hrs and counting.
I Always use my helmet in my Yamaha V Star
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From: David J. Dormer <djdormer(at)ptd.net>
Subject: Re: 701 down
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:37 PM
It is my sincerest wish and hope that Mr. Jurmu will recovery fully from his accident. May God Grace and Strengthen any family members and friends.
Every time I read a tragic account like this one, I wonder why flight helmets aren't more frequently used when flying in experimental or general aviation aircraft. It is likely, given the general mentality on the subject", that Mr. Jurmu wasn't wearing one either. Racecar drivers wear them, motorcyclists, bike riders, even skateboarders wear helmets. Very often, when you hire someone to test flight your experimental, he/she will arrive with a helmet and sometimes a parachute. Yet, flight helmets aren't generally considered "needed", "acceptable" or "required" in personal/GA aircraft. Are any of you old enough to remember when seatbelts weren't required in automobiles? I think that an account like this brings the practical need into a more real view.
David J. Dormer
Chaplain(MAJ) USA, Retired
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| Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: 701 down. |
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Hi Gary,
I agree with you.
Whenever possible I do "Spot Landings" rather than the "Cross Country" landings most light plane pilots tend to do. I pull power when opposite the numbers on downwind and set up best rate glide. Then turn base and usually apply full flaps after judging altitude is high enough. Then the landing is done without adding any power. It doesn't always work, but I consider it a failure if I must add power to get to the runway. When too high, a little forward slip will bring the plane down quickly. I think this is the kind of practice for engine out you mentioned.
I suppose a helmet and a parachute would reduce injuries a little bit. However, with a plane that lands under 40 knots you shouldn't need either one - so long as the airframe holds together.
Good luck,
Paul
XL - upgrade complete - nearing inspection.
On 5/2/2011 7:09 PM, Gary Gower wrote: [quote] Hello David,
First my best wishes for his fast and full recovery ...
Transition flying from another 701 pilot is Much much better that a helmet...
The 701 is a very safe aircraft. But needs to get used to the way it flys and the lack of inertia.
Engine out: Push the joke full forward first, then pull a little as needed to keep 50- 60 mph ) indicated (yes, looks scary, but will not do an inverted loop until almost touch down, then gently level and flare (if possible), keep calm during the hole process and probaly will bend the plane a little, but will come out unharmed...
Also, practice emergencies and engine off aproaches, when no specific place to go, instead of just burning gasoline around the airport, great experience gained when the "real thing" happens, "if" ever happens... a well mantained engine and aircraft is the best insurance than a helmet...
Gary Gower
701 912S 300 + hrs and counting.
I Always use my helmet in my Yamaha V Star
--- On Sat, 4/30/11, David J. Dormer <djdormer(at)ptd.net> (djdormer(at)ptd.net) wrote:
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From: David J. Dormer <djdormer(at)ptd.net> (djdormer(at)ptd.net)
Subject: Re: 701 down
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com (zenith-list(at)matronics.com)
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:37 PM
It is my sincerest wish and hope that Mr. Jurmu will recovery fully from his accident. May God Grace and Strengthen any family members and friends.
Every time I read a tragic account like this one, I wonder why flight helmets aren't more frequently used when flying in experimental or general aviation aircraft. It is likely, given the general mentality on the subject", that Mr. Jurmu wasn't wearing one either. Racecar drivers wear them, motorcyclists, bike riders, even skateboarders wear helmets. Very often, when you hire someone to test flight your experimental, he/she will arrive with a helmet and sometimes a parachute. Yet, flight helmets aren't generally considered "needed", "acceptable" or "required" in personal/GA aircraft. Are any of you old enough to remember when seatbelts weren't required in automobiles? I think that an account like this brings the practical need into a more real view.
David J. Dormer
Chaplain(MAJ) USA, Retired
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From: [url=/mc/compose?to=mlord001(at)new.rr.com]michael lord[/url]
To: [url=/mc/compose?to=Zenith-List(at)matronics.com]Zenith-List(at)matronics.com[/url]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:31 AM
Subject: 701 down
Hi Guys
701 down 15 miles from Green Bay Wi.
From what I heard it was engine failure on take off.
Regards
Mike Lord
A Suamico man injured after his plane crashed at Carter Airport near Pulaski Friday, is flown to St. Vincent Hospital in Green Bay.
PITTSFIELD -- A 67-year-old Suamico man, flying an experimental aircraft for the first time, crashed Friday afternoon on takeoff from Carter Airport in Pittsfield and suffered what authorities describe as serious head injuries.
The man, identified by the Brown County sheriff's department as Michael Jurmu of Spur Lane, was treated by paramedics and flown by EAGLE III to St. Vincent Hospital, according to the Brown County Sheriff’s Department. Jurmu’s condition is unknown Friday evening.
The aircraft, a fixed-wing, single-engine plane, is registered to Jurmu, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. The aircraft is classified as experimental and was built in August 2010, according to the FAA.
According to Jurmu’s friends at the airport, he is an experienced pilot but was flying the blue-and-white craft for the first time when it lost power on takeoff and crashed in a field east of the airport about 30 yards from the Mountain-Bay Trail.
Law enforcement and rescue personnel received the call about the crash just after 2 p.m.
Brown County Sheriff’s Department Sgt. Bill Morgan said Jurmu sustained a head injury and was unresponsive when taken to the N.E.W. Para-Medic Rescue vehicle. He was then taken to the nearby helicopter and flown to the hospital.
A friend at Carter airport who didn’t identify himself said Jurmu was retired.
The airport is adjacent to Wisconsin 32 just two miles south of Pulaski.
According to a veteran Tri-County Rescue Department official, it was the first plane accident at Carter Field in more than 20 years.
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