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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Ryton sumpsRyton sumps Reply with quote

I've been on the phone all day researching this topic. Thanks for =
pointing me in the right direction Gary.

Here's the deal:
If you want a "cold air sump", there seems to be 3 choices-
Ryton sump by Superior
Magnesium sump by ECI
Barrett Precision cold air sump


All the other metal sumps out there-
Aerosport Power
Aero Engines
Superflite
Are all copies of the Lycoming cast aluminum sump (not cold air sumps)

The Ryton sump (by Superior Engines) we've discussed before here, it =
costs 1000 to 1300 dollars and will break when used with a wasted spark =
electronic ignition system...if not sooner, then later. You might not =
know it's broken unless you inspect it closely like I did. Superior =
does not see the magnitude of the problem of the sumps it has in the =
field, but is currently in a "redesign" of the Ryton sump to address the =
wasted spark ignition issue. The new sump is expected out by October. =
Based on other new product announcements, I wouldn't look for it a day =
sooner.

The magnesium sump by ECI is just now becoming available and costs about =
$2400 including the tubes. There are two of them out there on aircraft =
so far. If you want to be #3, they should be ready to ship on May 22. =
I was told I'd have to fab a support bracket for the Bendix or AFP servo =
because that was "too much weight" out there for the induction portion =
of the sump to hold unsupported. That bothered me. The flange for =
mounting the fuel servo is also forward from where the Ryton sump flange =
is, which will mean more extensive alteration of the air snorkel to get =
it to fit.

I don't have the information on the Barrett Cold Sump system, but it is =
the most expensive of the three. I'll post that here when I find it.

I guess that's it...
My choice will be the Superflight sump, when it's available in a few =
weeks. It's a clone of the Lycoming forward facing sump, so it's not a =
"cold air sump". I have made peace with that and decided if I get a =
sump that WON'T BREAK, that will be more important than a few more =
horsepower. All these clones of the Lycoming forward facing sump are =
priced about the same at $2200.

I sure think there's a market out there for a well made cold air =
induction system...but I don't think there's a good one at a reasonable =
price that's available yet.

For those of you who are running Ryton sumps, I encourage you to inspect =
them very closely and very regularly. Like every time you fly. Two of =
these sumps that have broken here have actually broken into pieces that =
fell out onto the ground below the aircraft. The others have just =
cracked. In the case of my sump, the engine still ran fine with the =
cracked sump. Had we had the engine cowled, I would have had no reason =
to uncowl it to inspect it before going flying. Had the lower part of =
the sump (where the fuel servo mounts) broken off in flight, I am sure =
it would have ruined my day.

bob
rv7a
last few things plus a new induction system


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