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 Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: Minimum altitude to return to airport |
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Any one have some data points about real (not simulated) 180 deg turn
to touchdown gliding performance?
Jim Oke
RV-6A
Wpg., MB
Sorta, Jim.
The last guy I knew that survived a 180 emergency back to the airport did
not make it.
Although he survived, his aircraft was a near total and so was his
passenger's face.
Many surgeries needed before even a shadow of her good looks returned.
No shoulder harnesses installed.
FYI...
Normally, a 180 turn will just put an aircraft PARALLEL with the departure
runway.
More than likely you will need additional turning [and time] to line up....
and then a turn [and time] in the opposite direction to utilize the
departure runway.
Add in downwind speed and things can get very interesting.
I believe a decision to turn back to the airport is like the popularity of
the lottery.
There are always enough winners to keep the suckers coming.
Bob - over a half century of flight
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: Minimum altitude to return to airport |
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| Quote: | I believe a decision to turn back to the airport is like the popularity of
the lottery.
There are always enough winners to keep the suckers coming.
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That's a keeper, Bob!
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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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flyboy.bob(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: Minimum altitude to return to airport |
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Well I did the impossible turn and am here to tell about it . . . no
dings on the aircraft either . . . it was in an old wood wing Mooney
(Mk 20A) near gross, and of course it had the manual gear and flaps .
. . I don't recall how high I was but I know I wasn't anywhere near
500 ft AGL (Probaly 200-350 AGL?). . . . I did have the gear up it was
a cold winter day . . . the engine quit . . . I bent her around hard
and got her turned back over the (7,000 ft) runway . . . popped the
gear back out just before flare.
I was young and brave and highly skilled (had just finished my
commercial program) . . . I knew I shouldn't but thought I could and
did!
Don't take this as a recommendation . . . I wouldn't have made it in
most aircraft . . . It scared the hell out of me and god knows whether
my passengers ever flew again
Good Luck!
Bob in SE Iowa
On 5/17/06, Bob 1 <rv3a.1(at)comcast.net> wrote:
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Any one have some data points about real (not simulated) 180 deg turn
to touchdown gliding performance?
Jim Oke
RV-6A
Wpg., MB
Sorta, Jim.
The last guy I knew that survived a 180 emergency back to the airport did
not make it.
Although he survived, his aircraft was a near total and so was his
passenger's face.
Many surgeries needed before even a shadow of her good looks returned.
No shoulder harnesses installed.
FYI...
Normally, a 180 turn will just put an aircraft PARALLEL with the departure
runway.
More than likely you will need additional turning [and time] to line up....
and then a turn [and time] in the opposite direction to utilize the
departure runway.
Add in downwind speed and things can get very interesting.
I believe a decision to turn back to the airport is like the popularity of
the lottery.
There are always enough winners to keep the suckers coming.
Bob - over a half century of flight
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