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7suds(at)Chartermi.net
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:27 am Post subject: Fuel Lines

Guys,

Trying to finish up my interior and have come to the point of installing the

fuel lines from the wing tanks to the header tank, couple questions, has

anyone ran aluminum from the header to just inside the wing root then rubber

to the wing? What are the watch outs to doing so? Also, what flex fuel lines

have people had success with in reference to ethanol resistance, I know

Gates Barricade was previously discussed on the forum, I have not had any

success finding a distributor yet, what else have people been comfortable

with?



Thanks for the help,



Lloyd Cudnohufsky

Model 5 912ul IVO IFA

Northern Mi.

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pwmac(at)sisna.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:50 am Post subject: Fuel Lines

What you suggest is just fine. Use auto EFI hose. it is compatible 

with anything you put into your tank. Do not worry about the brand 

they all are ok. Sure Gates makes good stuff as does Goodyear, or 

NAPA and even the no name brands. Look carefully as some EFI hose is 

much stiffer than others. Important if you fold your wings or have 

tight bends. The only criteria needed is EFI and flexibility. Go to 

multiple auto shops and feel teh EFI hose.

PaulW

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Guys,

Trying to finish up my interior and have come to the point of installing the

fuel lines from the wing tanks to the header tank, couple questions, has

anyone ran aluminum from the header to just inside the wing root then rubber

to the wing? What are the watch outs to doing so? Also, what flex fuel lines

have people had success with in reference to ethanol resistance, I know

Gates Barricade was previously discussed on the forum, I have not had any

success finding a distributor yet, what else have people been comfortable

with?



Thanks for the help,



Lloyd Cudnohufsky

Model 5 912ul IVO IFA

Northern Mi.

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Guy Buchanan

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Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject: Fuel Lines

On 7/16/2011 6:24 AM, Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky wrote:  	  Quote: 	
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		  Trying to finish up my interior and have come to the point of installing the

fuel lines from the wing tanks to the header tank, couple questions, has

anyone ran aluminum from the header to just inside the wing root then rubber

to the wing? What are the watch outs to doing so? Also, what flex fuel lines

have people had success with in reference to ethanol resistance, 	
 	
 I use 3/8 Aeroquip socketless blue from the fingers turning aft along the frame tubes above the triangle windows. About half way back they turn into 3/8 aluminum and run behind the seat belt attach points, around, and forward to the header tank, all aluminum. I like it. I fold my wings every time I fly. Just make sure the aluminum lines are restrained at the end so they don't flex when you fold, and make sure they don't vibrate. I found it easier to route the aluminum than flex hose, since the aluminum stays where you put it. Can't speak to the ethanol resistance of the Aeroquip blue, as I only run 100LL.

 

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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: Fuel Lines

Lloyd,

 Finally got time to respond to the question.  This  is fresh in my recent building, but Guy's answer is exactly as I was  thinking.  Both the airplanes I am working on have folded wings for the  sake of work room.  The wings are extended from time to time for  needed work and there is a lot of slack in the top area when extended and  conventional wisdom says all should run down hill or you can get vapor lock in a  rise that will trap a bubble.  I ran rubber to the header tank then  aluminum to the fuel valve and through the firewall on my project.  I will  have to rethink my project based on what you are suggesting as I also like the  stay put nature of the aluminum.

  

 Lowell

  



  From: Guy Buchanan (gebuchanan(at)cox.net) 

 Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 2:33 PM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: Re: Fuel Lines

 



On 7/16/2011 6:24 AM, Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky wrote:   	  Quote: 	
		   	  Quote: 	
		  Trying to finish up my interior and have come to the point of installing the

fuel lines from the wing tanks to the header tank, couple questions, has

anyone ran aluminum from the header to just inside the wing root then rubber

to the wing? What are the watch outs to doing so? Also, what flex fuel lines

have people had success with in reference to ethanol resistance, 	
	
I  use 3/8 Aeroquip socketless blue from the fingers turning aft along the frame  tubes above the triangle windows. About half way back they turn into 3/8  aluminum and run behind the seat belt attach points, around, and forward to the  header tank, all aluminum. I like it. I fold my wings every time I fly. Just  make sure the aluminum lines are restrained at the end so they don't flex when  you fold, and make sure they don't vibrate. I found it easier to route the  aluminum than flex hose, since the aluminum stays where you put it. Can't speak  to the ethanol resistance of the Aeroquip blue, as I only run 100LL.



       Guy Buchanan

Ramona, CA

Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and  grounded





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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: Fuel Lines

LLoyd,

  

 I've thought of doing that very thing myself. For now, I'm running the 5/16" blue line from the wing all the way to the header, with Purelator glass filters in between, located just inside the cabin where I can see them. Works great. The blue fuel lines present no problems with ethanol although I've been running ethanol-free gas lately.

  

 Marco Menezes N99KX

 Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch

 Hersey, MI



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From: Lloyd & Lorrie Cudnohufsky <7suds(at)Chartermi.net>

Subject: Fuel Lines

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Guys,

Trying to finish up my interior and have come to the point of installing the

fuel lines from the wing tanks to the header tank, couple questions, has

anyone ran aluminum from the header to just inside the wing root then rubber

to the wing? What are the watch outs to doing so? Also, what flex fuel lines

have people had success with in reference to ethanol resistance, I know

Gates Barricade was previously discussed on the forum, I have not had any

success finding a distributor yet, what else have people been comfortable

with?



Thanks for the help,



Lloyd Cudnohufsky

Model 5 912ul IVO IFA

Northern ?Kitfox-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-Lis   --> 



	
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: Fuel Lines

[quote]Guys,Thanks for the responses on the fuel lines, I am searching out the parts and just might wait until I am in Oshkosh to pick them up. Guy I noticed you said you used 3/8, I was planning 5/16 but see that the fittings are more difficult to find especially when you get to the hose ends. Thanks again. Lloyd[b]

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