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				 Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: more pics | 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: more pics | 
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				One of the prettiest Tigers I have ever seen!!
  
 
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				 Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: more pics | 
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				The beacon was an option, but was necessary to fly at night legally. If you have the A500 light head in the tailcone, then you would be legal for night flight. Wheelen has an STC for this.Garner
 Subject: Re: more pics
 To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
 From: bhauskne(at)gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:38:40 +0000
 
   No beacon on the rudder? 
 Do the Strobes replace the need for a beacon?
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 www.brianflys.net
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:08 am    Post subject: more pics | 
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				It has a tail strobe. The flashing beacon is useless as a position indicator at distances over 1/2 mile. Fly with someone behind you and turn off the nav lights. Odds are, he won't be able to see you. 
 I came very close to a mid-air collision at Livermore because of a Cessna not talking on the radio and turning final right in front of me.  I could not see any of his lights. They were lost in the ground clutter. 
 I haven't had a flashing beacon since 1990. 
 
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 Do the Strobes replace the need for a beacon?
 
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 bhauskne(at)gmail.com (bhauskne(at)gmail.com)
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:08 am    Post subject: more pics | 
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				Coming from an artist, that is really a compliment. 
 
 Gary
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 On Sep 14, 2011, at 3:25 PM, "Carver Shivers, CPP, Portrait Artist" <carver(at)shiversgallery.com (carver(at)shiversgallery.com)> wrote:
 
 [quote]One of the prettiest Tigers I have ever seen!!
  
 
 Sincerely,
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: more pics | 
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				Most all the photos were of the exterior.  It takes more than that to 
 make a award winning plane.  It takes interior, panel and engine 
 compartment and a lot of attention to detail.
 
 Cliff
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: more pics | 
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				Brian & Garner:
 
 The answer is: Maybe YES... IF you have THREE (3) Point Strobes... Wing tips and Tail Cone. Then YES Strobes replace the beacon. Useless thing anyway.
 Barry
  
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 [quote] No beacon on the rudder? 
 Do the Strobes replace the need for a beacon?
 
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 bhauskne(at)gmail.com (bhauskne(at)gmail.com)
 www.brianflys.net
  carver(at)shiversgallery.com (carver(at)shiversgallery.com)> 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:58 am    Post subject: more pics | 
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				Just giving a nice comment...   I know what I like...  
  
 
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				I'm not at artist...and I thought it was really nice looking, too!! BUT, I'm lucky enough to own a Tiger!
 
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