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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
Interesting:

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1369624.html

Jamey

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:45 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for some
time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

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http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1369624.html

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:05 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
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Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few years ago to someone in CA.  Was based up at Columbia (I think) for some time.  If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal. Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
Registration shows it so be an AA5A.
Brian



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Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for some
time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

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Interesting:

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1369624.html

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:59 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
Yup!

It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A
  • Year:1979
  • Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
  • Model:AA5B Tiger
  • Price:$60,000.00
  • Location:N/A
  • Condition:Used
  • Serial Number:AA5A0555

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Registration shows it so be an AA5A.
Brian




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Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA.  Was based up at Columbia (I think) for some
time.  If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:00 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started
life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the
GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Quote:
Yup!

It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A

* Year:1979
* Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
* Model:AA5B Tiger
* Price:$60,000.00
* Location:N/A
* Condition:Used
* Serial Number:AA5A0555
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley(at)comcast.net
<mailto:cloudvalley(at)comcast.net>> wrote:

Registration shows it so be an AA5A.

Brian

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Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for
some
time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 12:09 AM, James Courtney wrote:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?



Andrew Kuzyk BID, ACIDO, RGD // Partner
Entro Communications
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Toronto, Canada M5A 2Y8

T: 416-368-6988 x 222
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[quote]--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>

All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Quote:
Yup!

It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A

* Year:1979
* Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
* Model:AA5B Tiger
* Price:$60,000.00
* Location:N/A
* Condition:Used
* Serial Number:AA5A0555
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley(at)comcast.net (cloudvalley(at)comcast.net)
<mailto:cloudvalley(at)comcast.net (cloudvalley(at)comcast.net)>> wrote:

Registration shows it so be an AA5A.

Brian

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Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for
some
time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 12:09 AM, James Courtney wrote:
> Interesting:
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> [url=http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1369624.html]http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1369624.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
It isn't difficult. It just doesn't make any sense. You don't need to carry around the extra weight. If it were me doing the conversion (IO360 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight. Unless you carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don't make sense.
Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd need to worry about is burning off the excess fuel before your insurance company investigates the crash. The Traveler/Cheetah spar is strong enough to handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.
From: Andrew Kuzyk <andrew(at)entro.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?
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Andrew Kuzyk BID, ACIDO, RGD // Partner

Entro Communications
 122 Parliament St.
Toronto, Canada M5A 2Y8

T: 416-368-6988 x 222
M: 416-706-4490
F: 416-368-5616

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All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Quote:
Yup!

It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A

* Year:1979
* Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
* Model:AA5B Tiger
* Price:$60,000.00
* Location:N/A
* Condition:Used
* Serial Number:AA5A0555
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley(at)comcast.net (cloudvalley(at)comcast.net)
<mailto:cloudvalley(at)comcast.net (cloudvalley(at)comcast.net)>> wrote:

Registration shows it so be an AA5A.

  Brian

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Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for
 some
time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

 On 9/15/2011 12:09 AM, James Courtney wrote:
> Interesting:
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> [url=http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1369624.html]http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/1369624.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a cheetah?



From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
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Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

It isn't difficult. It just doesn't make any sense. You don't need to carry around the extra weight. If it were me doing the conversion (IO360 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight. Unless you carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don't make sense.



Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd need to worry about is burning off the excess fuel before your insurance company investigates the crash. The Traveler/Cheetah spar is strong enough to handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.


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To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?

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Entro Communications
122 Parliament St.

Toronto, Canada M5A 2Y8
T: 416-368-6988 x 222
M: 416-706-4490

F: 416-368-5616
www.entro.com


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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>

All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Yup!
Quote:


It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A

* Year:1979
* Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
* Model:AA5B Tiger
* Price:$60,000.00
* Location:N/A
* Condition:Used
* Serial Number:AA5A0555


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley(at)comcast.net
<mailto:cloudvalley(at)comcast.net>> wrote:

Registration shows it so be an AA5A.

Brian

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Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for
some
time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
No one! There is no multiple STC available to purchase. There was only
one multiple STC issued and it is not for sale, at this time anyhow.

Cliff

On 9/16/2011 3:55 PM, Jim Fudge wrote:
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Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a cheetah?

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[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
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*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

It isn't difficult. It just doesn't make any sense. You don't need to
carry around the extra weight. If it were me doing the conversion (IO360
into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight. Unless you
carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don't make sense.

Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd need to
worry about is burning off the excess fuel before your insurance company
investigates the crash. The Traveler/Cheetah spar is strong enough to
handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.

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*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?

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All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started
life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the
GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
Be patient. I'm working on an STC for an IO360 into a Tiger that is 1/5 as much work as what has previously been done.
From: Jim Fudge <n26780(at)cox.net>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a cheetah?



From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:58 PM
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

It isn't difficult. It just doesn't make any sense. You don't need to carry around the extra weight. If it were me doing the conversion (IO360 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight. Unless you carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don't make sense.



Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd need to worry about is burning off the excess fuel before your insurance company investigates the crash. The Traveler/Cheetah spar is strong enough to handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.


From: Andrew Kuzyk <andrew(at)entro.com (andrew(at)entro.com)>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?

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Entro Communications
122 Parliament St.

Toronto, Canada M5A 2Y8
T: 416-368-6988 x 222
M: 416-706-4490

F: 416-368-5616
www.entro.com


On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:57 AM, flyv35b wrote:


--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>

All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Yup!
Quote:

It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A

* Year:1979
* Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
* Model:AA5B Tiger
* Price:$60,000.00
* Location:N/A
* Condition:Used
* Serial Number:AA5A0555


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley(at)comcast.net
<mailto:cloudvalley(at)comcast.net>> wrote:

Registration shows it so be an AA5A.
 
 Brian

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<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>
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*Sent: *Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:42:04 AM
*Subject: *Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto



--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b
<flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>

Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for
some
time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 12:09 AM, James Courtney wrote:
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:21 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
Is that your IO-360B1A with a CS prop? What about adding a Turbo Normalizer?

--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:

From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 1:14 AM

Be patient. I'm working on an STC for an IO360 into a Tiger that is 1/5 as much work as what has previously been done.


From: Jim Fudge <n26780(at)cox.net>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a cheetah?



From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:58 PM
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

It isn't difficult. It just doesn't make any sense. You don't need to carry around the extra weight. If it were me doing the conversion (IO360 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight. Unless you carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don't make sense.



Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd need to worry about is burning off the excess fuel before your insurance company investigates the crash. The Traveler/Cheetah spar is strong enough to handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.




From: Andrew Kuzyk <andrew(at)entro.com (andrew(at)entro.com)>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com (teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?

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Entro Communications
122 Parliament St.

 Toronto, Canada M5A 2Y8


T: 416-368-6988 x 222
M: 416-706-4490

 F: 416-368-5616


www.entro.com


On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:57 AM, flyv35b wrote:


--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>

All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Yup!
Quote:

It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A

* Year:1979
* Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
* Model:AA5B Tiger
* Price:$60,000.00
* Location:N/A
* Condition:Used
* Serial Number:AA5A0555


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley(at)comcast.net
<mailto:cloudvalley(at)comcast.net>> wrote:

 Registration shows it so be an AA5A.

 Brian

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 *Sent: *Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:42:04 AM
 *Subject: *Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto



 --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b
 <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>

 Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
 years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for
 some
 time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
 Anyone know what the N-number is?

 Cliff

 On 9/15/2011 12:09 AM, James Courtney wrote:
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
IO360B1G6.
Brock, I think a turbo-normalized Tiger would be awesome. Tell you what: you donate your plane for 3 to 5 years, you buy the engine and turbo, you pay for the DER, and I'll do all the labor for free. All I ask is to be half owner of the STC.
Gary
From: Brock Windsor <n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

Is that your IO-360B1A with a CS prop? What about adding a Turbo Normalizer?

--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 1:14 AM

Be patient.  I'm working on an STC for an IO360 into a Tiger that is 1/5 as much work as what has previously been done.


From: Jim Fudge <n26780(at)cox.net>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a cheetah?



From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:58 PM
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

It isn't difficult. It just doesn't make any sense. You don't need to carry around the extra weight. If it were me doing the conversion (IO360 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight. Unless you carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it don't make sense.



Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd need to worry about is burning off the excess fuel before your insurance company investigates the crash. The Traveler/Cheetah spar is strong enough to handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.




From: Andrew Kuzyk <andrew(at)entro.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?

[/url]

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Entro Communications
122 Parliament St.

Toronto, Canada M5A 2Y8


T: 416-368-6988 x 222
M: 416-706-4490

F: 416-368-5616


www.entro.com


On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:57 AM, flyv35b wrote:


--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>

All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing the GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

On 9/15/2011 7:56 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Yup!
Quote:

It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
The S/N: tell you AA5-A

* Year:1979
 * Manufacturer:Grumman/American General
* Model:AA5B Tiger
* Price:$60,000.00
* Location:N/A
* Condition:Used
* Serial Number:AA5A0555


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:38 AM, <cloudvalley(at)comcast.net
<mailto:cloudvalley(at)comcast.net>> wrote:

Registration shows it so be an AA5A.

Brian

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<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>
*To: *teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
<mailto:teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:42:04 AM
*Subject: *Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto



--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b
<flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>

 Seems to me that may be Joe Breuer's old Tiger that he sold quite a few
years ago to someone in CA. Was based up at Columbia (I think) for
some
  time. If so it has the IO-360-A1B6D (?) engine out of an RG Cardinal.
Anyone know what the N-number is?

Cliff

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:01 am    Post subject: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto Reply with quote
And don't forget the MT or Hartzell CS prop to go with it. Another
$10K. What are you going to have invested when it is all done - $140K?

On 9/17/2011 8:08 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
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IO360B1G6.

Brock, I think a turbo-normalized Tiger would be awesome. Tell you what:
you donate your plane for 3 to 5 years, you buy the engine and turbo,
you pay for the DER, and I'll do all the labor for free. All I ask is to
be half owner of the STC.

Gary

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*From:* Brock Windsor <n2_narcosis(at)yahoo.com>
*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:19 AM
*Subject:* Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

Is that your IO-360B1A with a CS prop? What about adding a Turbo Normalizer?

--- On *Sat, 9/17/11, Gary Vogt /<teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>/* wrote:
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto
To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 1:14 AM

Be patient. I'm working on an STC for an IO360 into a Tiger that is
1/5 as much work as what has previously been done.

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*From:* Jim Fudge <n26780(at)cox.net>
*To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
*Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2011 3:55 PM
*Subject:* RE: IO-360 tiger for sale in Palo Alto

Who has the conversion stc for the IO360 in a cheetah?
*From:*owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
*Gary Vogt
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It isn't difficult. It just doesn't make any sense. You don't need
to carry around the extra weight. If it were me doing the conversion
(IO360 into a Cheetah/Traveler), I'd keep the 2200 gross weight.
Unless you carry a lot of passengers and baggage frequently, it
don't make sense.
Even if you loaded the plane over 2200 lbs, the only thing you'd
need to worry about is burning off the excess fuel before your
insurance company investigates the crash. The Traveler/Cheetah spar
is strong enough to handle anything you'd care to try to do with it.
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<http://us.mc463.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=andrew(at)entro.com>>
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How difficult would it be do a centre spar conversion on a Traveler?
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All of the planes converted to the IO-360 and IO-540 engines started
life as Cheetahs and had the Tiger center spar conversion, bringing
the GW up to 2400lb.

Cliff

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It IS an AA5-A, converted to a Saber Tiger or a Saber Cheatha..
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