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steve.freeman(at)syntaxds
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 Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:08 am Post subject: quick question |
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Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
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mtherr(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: quick question |
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I used a high quality tape from Swagelok for pipes fitting on my 601. I also used Loctite thread seallant coumpound. In both cases, I stay clear of the first two threads.
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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: quick question |
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Hi Steve,
Don’t use the Teflon tape as it will shred and complicate operation of your brake lines and cylinders.
There is a white Teflon paste if necessary that works well. Comes in a small squeeze tube from Locktite.
Fly safe,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Freeman
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Subject: quick question
Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
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psm(at)att.net
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:55 am Post subject: quick question |
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Hi Steve,
If I understand your question correctly, there should be no need for the threads you describe to be sealed. A compression fitting seals on the inside of the fitting rather than the threads.
I suggest you try assembling the fitting without any sealing material in the threads. Try the brakes and look for leaks. If you find a leak then you might consider using something like medium loctite to seal the threads. You certainly don't want to use teflon tape since it is likely to contaminate the system in question.
Paul
Camas, WA
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Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
Lycoming 0235
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BARRY CHECK 6
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: quick question |
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Steve:
You have to be more specific.
Are you referring to the Pipe Thread? If so, then a very - very tinny drop of liquid TEFLON pipe sealer.
Some have used TAPE DOPE - TEFLON TAPE - But many of those some have had problems because of the tape breaking free and clogging the orifice. Simple solution... Don't use it.
Now, if you are referring to the machine threads on the nut end - NOTHING. You may want to put a drop of WITNESS PAINT on the
nut/thread to show if things are
And the Super Big Number One Rule - DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN.
The use of ANY compound or tape makes it very easy to over tighten. Do so and you will be replacing the cylinder.
Barry
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Steve Freeman <steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com (steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com)> wrote:
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Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
Lycoming 0235
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steve.freeman(at)syntaxds
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: quick question |
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Hi guys,
Sorry for not being more specific…I thought you guys would know the part I am referring to.
These are the brass fittings that ZAC supplies with the kit that screw in to the Master Brake Cylinders by Matco.
Compression fitting might have been the wrong term.
Steve
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of FLYaDIVE
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:16 AM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: quick question
Steve:
You have to be more specific.
Are you referring to the Pipe Thread? If so, then a very - very tinny drop of liquid TEFLON pipe sealer.
Some have used TAPE DOPE - TEFLON TAPE - But many of those some have had problems because of the tape breaking free and clogging the orifice. Simple solution... Don't use it.
Now, if you are referring to the machine threads on the nut end - NOTHING. You may want to put a drop of WITNESS PAINT on the
nut/thread to show if things are
And the Super Big Number One Rule - DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN.
The use of ANY compound or tape makes it very easy to over tighten. Do so and you will be replacing the cylinder.
Barry
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Steve Freeman <steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com (steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com)> wrote:
Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
Lycoming 0235
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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:41 am Post subject: quick question |
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Hi Steve
I have always used tape on all my fittings and with well over 4000 hrs on 4 planes I have built there is no problems. The reason it is taboo is people were not using it properly and it did get into fuel/brake systems but if used correctly it works well. Any sealant that is allowed to enter the system is bad that's why I don't use liquid sealant. The main thing you have to remember is not to apply any tape to the first 2 or 3 threads as someone said before and wrap the tape away from the ends and you will be fine.
I'm also not sure why everyone has so much trouble contacting Bill Clapp I just talked to him yesterday and I have never had problems with him as far as parts and money goes. He did say people don't leave messages and if they don't he has no idea they called so I would say leave a message.
Jeff
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Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
Lycoming 0235
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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: quick question |
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tapered threads is what you have.....
In a message dated 10/20/2011 11:39:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com writes:
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Hi guys,
Sorry for not being more specific…I thought you guys would know the part I am referring to.
These are the brass fittings that ZAC supplies with the kit that screw in to the Master Brake Cylinders by Matco.
Compression fitting might have been the wrong term.
Steve
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of FLYaDIVE
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:16 AM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: quick question
Steve:
You have to be more specific.
Are you referring to the Pipe Thread? If so, then a very - very tinny drop of liquid TEFLON pipe sealer.
Some have used TAPE DOPE - TEFLON TAPE - But many of those some have had problems because of the tape breaking free and clogging the orifice. Simple solution... Don't use it.
Now, if you are referring to the machine threads on the nut end - NOTHING. You may want to put a drop of WITNESS PAINT on the
nut/thread to show if things are
And the Super Big Number One Rule - DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN.
The use of ANY compound or tape makes it very easy to over tighten. Do so and you will be replacing the cylinder.
Barry
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Steve Freeman <steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com (steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com)> wrote:
Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
Lycoming 0235
01234567890123
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steve.freeman(at)syntaxds
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: quick question |
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the excellent explanation.
Was Bill Clapp the guy you said might have a Corvair available?
I decided to go with a new 0235 for a long list of reasons.
Thanks for all of your input over the past couple of months and sorry nothing ever worked.
Steve
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:39 AM
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Subject: Re: quick question
Hi Steve
I have always used tape on all my fittings and with well over 4000 hrs on 4 planes I have built there is no problems. The reason it is taboo is people were not using it properly and it did get into fuel/brake systems but if used correctly it works well. Any sealant that is allowed to enter the system is bad that's why I don't use liquid sealant. The main thing you have to remember is not to apply any tape to the first 2 or 3 threads as someone said before and wrap the tape away from the ends and you will be fine.
I'm also not sure why everyone has so much trouble contacting Bill Clapp I just talked to him yesterday and I have never had problems with him as far as parts and money goes. He did say people don't leave messages and if they don't he has no idea they called so I would say leave a message.
Jeff
In a message dated 10/20/2011 10:09:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com (steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com) writes:
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Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
Lycoming 0235
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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: quick question |
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I have come around to the thinking an aircraft engine is the way to go also. I am building my next 601 now and it will have a 0-235 on it also.
Bill did have an engine but I know how to deal with Bill but I am glad you decided to not go with a Corvair as have I for a whole list of reasons also.
Jeff
In a message dated 10/20/2011 12:07:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com writes:
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the excellent explanation.
Was Bill Clapp the guy you said might have a Corvair available?
I decided to go with a new 0235 for a long list of reasons.
Thanks for all of your input over the past couple of months and sorry nothing ever worked.
Steve
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:39 AM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: quick question
Hi Steve
I have always used tape on all my fittings and with well over 4000 hrs on 4 planes I have built there is no problems. The reason it is taboo is people were not using it properly and it did get into fuel/brake systems but if used correctly it works well. Any sealant that is allowed to enter the system is bad that's why I don't use liquid sealant. The main thing you have to remember is not to apply any tape to the first 2 or 3 threads as someone said before and wrap the tape away from the ends and you will be fine.
I'm also not sure why everyone has so much trouble contacting Bill Clapp I just talked to him yesterday and I have never had problems with him as far as parts and money goes. He did say people don't leave messages and if they don't he has no idea they called so I would say leave a message.
Jeff
In a message dated 10/20/2011 10:09:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com (steve.freeman(at)syntaxds.com) writes:
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Hey Guys,
What should I use to seal the threads where the compression fittings screw in to the master cylinders and brake calipers? Is this and plumbers tape or a putty type compound. I thought I remembered seeing to definitely not use tape…but I can’t remember now.
Thanks guys,
Steve
N902AL
650B
Lycoming 0235
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