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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:25 am Post subject: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... |
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Afternoon, Matt...
My first thought (if I read your note correctly) would be to use the smaller one that works, and make a new miniature panel to mount it in, then mount the new miniature panel to cover the larger hole...It may look a little odd (you could paint it pink, I suppose, to REALLY make it odd!) but it would keep you from encountering any other problems that may crop up even if you think you get the RCP working, as it may fail when needed the most.
Harley
On 10/10/2011 12:53 PM, Matt Dralle wrote: [quote] Quote: | --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> (dralle(at)matronics.com)
Greetings Listers,
I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes was broken off.
I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole.
Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery.
But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different RCP's is slightly different.
The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big.
Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this before.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... |
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On 10/10/2011 11:53 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:
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Greetings Listers,
I have an RV-6 with an ACK E-01 ELT unit and the small Remote Control Panel (RCP) unit. Last month, I completely replaced the instrument panel in the airplane and when I removed the ELT's RCP, I noticed that one of the mounting holes was broken off.
I had another ELT on the shelf for another project and so I grabbed the RCP from it and designed a hole in the new instrument panel for it. The hole for this RCP was about twice the height of the hole for the RCP from the E-01 but appeared to be exactly the same as far as make and connector hole.
Well, I didn't really put two and two together at the time but the E-01 is from ACK Technologies, and the RCP from the other unit is an Ameri-King AK-450. Except for the difference in vertical size the two RCP's look exactly the same and accept the same RJ-11 connector. Both have a Red and a Black button and a single Red LED. Both take a 3 volt battery.
But here's the bummer, after I put everything back together this weekend, it turns out that the new RCP will NOT turn the E-01 on/off. If I plug the original E-01 RCP in to the same RJ-11 wire, it does turn the E-01 on/off, so the wiring and E-01 are fine. It just seems that the internal wiring of the two different RCP's is slightly different.
The bigger bummer is that now I have a large hole in my panel for the RCP that doesn't work, so I have to figure something out. The original-sized RCP won't fit because its too small and the panel hole is too big.
Can anyone lend any advice on the situation? Surely others have run into this before.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
There's at least one ELT out there that has the leads in the 'phone
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wire' re-arranged between the two ends. Sorry; I can't remember which
one, but an archive search might find some posts about it. Some have cut
the end to feed through the airframe, crimped on a new connector, & then
discovered that the wires were, IIRC, reversed in the connector in one end.
One thing to try (if the connector is the same as a regular
phone-to-wall-jack connector) is to simply grab a phone cable and a wall
jack. The wall jack makes using your volt/ohm meter a lot easier. plug
the connector into the switch module & the wall jack. Check resistances
& voltages with the switch in each of the possible positions, & make a
chart of the results. Repeat with the other switch module. Make a new
cable with re-arranged wires to give results that match the original switch.
Charlie
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skywagon
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: Ameri-King AK-450 vs ACK E-10 Remote Control Panel... |
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Hi Charlie,
I wish that you hit the List with the problem before doing the cutting. I
know something about this as I had asked one of Bob's Lists the very same
question. Did anyone know the difference in these two RCP units and how to
modify either to do the others job. I received no replies.
However, being that ACK and Ameri-King are arch rivals, they naturally would
not standardize the RCP. One is probably pull to ground and the other is a
pull up to control the ELT.
Hopefully, your message to the List will find a person that knows the
workings of these simple RCP boxes and advise a few changes to make it work.
I will be watching too for any answers....
Dave
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