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undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Kolbers,



I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle and 

FireFly.  I currently have it mounted on my instrument panel, but it's 

difficult to reach and read from where I sit.  I was trying to figure 

another place to put it, limited to the left side, since I climb in and 

out the right side.  With the throttle handle on the left, the only 

place I can figure would be to attach it to the windshield about 8" from 

the bottom.  I would bond a piece of plastic on the windshield, maybe 4" 

in diameter, to spread out the stress on the plastic.  It would be 

perfect there from my perspective, but I was wondering about the 

windshield's perspective.



Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc.



Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble 

in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those.  Must you 

disconnect the master cylinder and lift it out into the open in order to 

add brake fluid?  I can't really feel any difference between left and 

right braking, so maybe I should just leave well enough alone.  Input 

would be much appreciated.



Thanks,



Dave Kulp

Bethlehem, PA

FireFly 11DMK

Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Dave,



I use a suction cup mount for my iPhone which I now use for my GPS. It stays on the windshield very well(not fallen off yet) and I can remove it after flight and use it in my car. 

  



Thom in Buffalo



On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:25 PM, David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net (undoctor(at)ptd.net)> wrote:

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 Kolbers,

 

 I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle and FireFly.  I currently have it mounted on my instrument panel, but it's difficult to reach and read from where I sit.  I was trying to figure another place to put it, limited to the left side, since I climb in and out the right side.  With the throttle handle on the left, the only place I can figure would be to attach it to the windshield about 8" from the bottom.  I would bond a piece of plastic on the windshield, maybe 4" in diameter, to spread out the stress on the plastic.  It would be perfect there from my perspective, but I was wondering about the windshield's perspective.

   

 Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc.

 

 Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those.  Must you disconnect the master cylinder and lift it out into the open in order to add brake fluid?  I can't really feel any difference between left and right braking, so maybe I should just leave well enough alone.  Input would be much appreciated.

   

 Thanks,

 

 Dave Kulp

 Bethlehem, PA

 FireFly 11DMK

 

 

 

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John Hauck

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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:48 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

I have a Garmin Zumo GPS  

Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc.



Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble 

in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those 



Dave Kulp



Dave K/Folks:



I've worn my GPS on my left thigh since day one, 1993, because I had no room

to mount it in the MKIII.  I used part of the yoke mount, modified it with a

piece of 2" Velcro that wraps around my leg.



MATCO brakes should be bled from the bleed screw back up through the system

and through each master cylinder and into the recovery container.  I use a

loop of 1/4" ID fuel line looped from one master cylinder to the other.  The

loop goes up into the nose cone. A few holes are drilled into the top of the

loop to vent to the atmosphere.  Clear brake line and clear fuel line allows

one to see if there is air being pumped through the system.  I use a small

hand pump oil can and 1/8" ID clear line to connect the pump to the bleed

screw.  You may have to position the aircraft to allow air to escape from

the highest point of each part of the brake system.  Should have zero air in

the system in order for the brake system to work properly.



john h

mkIII

hauck's holler, alabama

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undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:00 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Good to hear from you, Thom.  I have a smaller Garmin that I use in     the 18 wheeler that I attach to the windshield with a suction cup     since I slip seats, and it stays on just fine.  My FF windshield has     a curvature and I assumed a suction cup wouldn't stay. I'm going to     have to dig my mount from my gear jammer bag and put it in my flight     bag to test it.  Thanks, Thom.  Hope it works out!

     

     Dave Kulp

     Bethlehem, PA

     FireFly 11DMK

     

     On 10/27/2011 5:40 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:     [quote]Dave,       

         

       I use a suction cup           mount for my iPhone which I now use for my GPS. It stays on           the windshield very well(not fallen off yet) and I can remove           it after flight and use it in my car. 

       

         

       Thom in Buffalo

         

         On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:25 PM, David           Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net (undoctor(at)ptd.net)>           wrote:

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             Kolbers,

             

             I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle             and FireFly.  I currently have it mounted on my instrument             panel, but it's difficult to reach and read from where I             sit.  I was trying to figure another place to put it,             limited to the left side, since I climb in and out the right             side.  With the throttle handle on the left, the only place             I can figure would be to attach it to the windshield about             8" from the bottom.  I would bond a piece of plastic on the             windshield, maybe 4" in diameter, to spread out the stress             on the plastic.  It would be perfect there from my             perspective, but I was wondering about the windshield's             perspective.

             

             Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate             locations, etc.

             

             Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an             air bubble in the one line and I've never bled brakes like             those.  Must you disconnect the master cylinder and lift it             out into the open in order to add brake fluid?  I can't             really feel any difference between left and right braking,             so maybe I should just leave well enough alone.  Input would             be much appreciated.

             

             Thanks,

             

             Dave Kulp

             Bethlehem, PA

             FireFly 11DMK

             

             

             

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undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Hi John,



Leg mounted GPS is kind of out with my Icom on one and kneeboard on the 

other.

Maybe I'll find another place for my Icom since I recently bought a 

stick mount PTT

to cut down on the noise when I'm transmitting and use your suggestion.  

If the

suction cup works out, I'll probably go with that.



Thanks, too, for the bleeding guide.  Best to start a job knowing what 

you're doing

than fixing mistakes halfway in.   So you're pumping fluid from the 

bleeder screw

at the wheel back up to the master cylinders, right.  The oil can is a 

great Idea for

that!   Appreciate it, John.



Dave Kulp

Bethlehem, PA

FireFly 11DMK



On 10/27/2011 5:46 PM, John Hauck wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   





 I have a Garmin Zumo GPS

 Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc.



 Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air bubble

 in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those



 Dave Kulp



 Dave K/Folks:



 I've worn my GPS on my left thigh since day one, 1993, because I had no room

 to mount it in the MKIII.  I used part of the yoke mount, modified it with a

 piece of 2" Velcro that wraps around my leg.



 MATCO brakes should be bled from the bleed screw back up through the system

 and through each master cylinder and into the recovery container.  I use a

 loop of 1/4" ID fuel line looped from one master cylinder to the other.  The

 loop goes up into the nose cone. A few holes are drilled into the top of the

 loop to vent to the atmosphere.  Clear brake line and clear fuel line allows

 one to see if there is air being pumped through the system.  I use a small

 hand pump oil can and 1/8" ID clear line to connect the pump to the bleed

 screw.  You may have to position the aircraft to allow air to escape from

 the highest point of each part of the brake system.  Should have zero air in

 the system in order for the brake system to work properly.



 john h

 mkIII

 hauck's holler, alabama

Mike Welch

Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Posts: 272

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Dave,



  Have you done a search on eBay.  They have a huge selection of Cell Phone/PDA/GPS holders.

They come as suction cup style, bean bag weighted ones, clamp ons, etc.  Tons to choose from.



  I have one of the chinese suction cup types, with the 8" articulating arm.  The GPS clamp mechanism 

is ok, and long arm is ok, too.    But the suction cup locking device is typical chinese crapola.  



  I think if I were to depend on one of these type of holders (suction cup, bean bag type) I'd probably 

make my own mounting added on to theirs.  Probably use a large patch of Velcro 4-6 sq inches 

glued to a flatish surface, and somehow attach a mating Velcro plate on their devise.



  On the other hand, the "clamp style" is probably the best and most secure.  All you need to

do is make a short tube mount for the thing to clamp on to.  



  Hey, just throwin' suggestions out there............



Mike Welch

Mike Welch

Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Posts: 272

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Dave, 



  Like this:



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Bike-Cell-Phone-PDA-GPS-Clamp-Mount-Hold-Holder-/130554026674?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item1e65a05ab2#ht_2872wt_973



Or maybe even something like this:



http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARMIN-NUVI-550-500-zumo-220-suction-cup-mount-holder-/250649129430?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5bda31d6#ht_1024wt_999



  The point is, there a million types( not really a million, but almost), you just have to figure out which one works the best in your situation.



Cheers,

Mike Welch

Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: GPS in FireFly

Make a bracket and mount it on the stick. Here's how:

Take a piece of tubing about 3" long and the same diameter as the control stick and split it in half. Spread it open a hair. Weld a 3/16" rod to the top of it sticking out sideways. Solder that to a piece of copper sheet (from the hobby shop) that is bent so that the gps fits into it snugly. Angle it so it is easy to see.



Roll the rubber grip back and slip the half tube into place, wrap it at the top with a couple wraps of electrical tape, it won't go anywhere. And (Taa-Daa!) you can poke the gps with your thumb without ever having to take your hand off the stick.



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Kingsport, TN 3TN0

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undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Thanks, Mike.  The bottom link is the cradle I use for the Nuvi in the 

rig.  Works well since there's just a simple plug in back that goes to 

the lighter socker.  But the Zumo motorcycle GPS has about 16 pins as 

part of the cradle that must plug and lock the unit, so I have one 

(expensive) cradle in my pickup, one on my cycle and one in my FF.  I 

have RAM mounts, so I can configure their suction cup in the FF if it 

will hang on to the windshield.



Strong gusty winds Tue, rain today, drive 18 wheeler tomorrow, and I was 

hoping to fly Sat, but they're calling for 4 - 6" on snow on Sat!!!!!!  

Get real, it's still October, right?  I guess we'll have more nice days 

before the deep freeze...



Thanks again, Mike.  I appreciate your suggestions.



Dave Kulp

Bethlehem, PA

FireFly 11DMK



On 10/27/2011 7:25 PM, Michael Welch wrote:

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 Dave,



    Like this:



 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Bike-Cell-Phone-PDA-GPS-Clamp-Mount-Hold-Holder-/130554026674?pt=AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item1e65a05ab2#ht_2872wt_973



 Or maybe even something like this:



 http://www.ebay.com/itm/GARMIN-NUVI-550-500-zumo-220-suction-cup-mount-holder-/250649129430?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5bda31d6#ht_1024wt_999



    The point is, there a million types( not really a million, but almost), you just have to figure out which one works the best in your situation.



 Cheers,

 Mike Welch

undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Nice setup, Richard, thanks!  I'm going to try the simpler way and see 

if the RAM suction cup will stay on my windshield, especially since the 

entire cradle is necessary with the 16 pins.



BTW, I enjoyed your vids!  You land uphill after clearing wires, too, 

huh?  My strip is pretty steep so you've got to kind of fly into the 

hillside because if you try to fly parallel so your wheels are brushing 

the top of the blades of grass you'd be taking off again.  Takes a bit 

of getting used to.  Just glad to have a strip with reasonable rent 

relatively close to home (and an owner with a hydraulic truck to roll 

your hangar/trailer upright again after the hurricane!!).



Dave Kulp

Bethlehem, PA

FireFly 11DMK



On 10/27/2011 9:41 PM, Richard Pike wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Make a bracket and mount it on the stick. Here's how:

 Take a piece of tubing about 3" long and the same diameter as the control stick and split it in half. Spread it open a hair. Weld a 3/16" rod to the top of it sticking out sideways. Solder that to a piece of copper sheet (from the hobby shop) that is bent so that the gps fits into it snugly. Angle it so it is easy to see.



 Roll the rubber grip back and slip the half tube into place, wrap it at the top with a couple wraps of electrical tape, it won't go anywhere. And (Taa-Daa!) you can poke the gps with your thumb without ever having to take your hand off the stick.



 If you want detailed closeups, let me know, I'll get you some tomorrow.



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 Richard Pike

 Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

 richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org

 Kingsport, TN 3TN0

 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

 Hebrews 11:1





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cedavis

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 23
Location: Malvern, PA

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:03 am Post subject: GPS in Firefly

Dave - I have a suction cup mount for my firefly, just as Thom describes.



Yes, the windscreen is curved; all you do is place your hand on the back side when sticking on the suction cup.  A little spit around the rim of the suction cup also helps!  Holds solidly.

 

Chuck Davis

Smoketown, PA

FireFly N7057K  

 Time: 03:00:46 PM PST US

 From: David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net (undoctor(at)ptd.net)>

 Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly

 

 Good to hear from you, Thom.  I have a smaller Garmin that I use in the

 18 wheeler that I attach to the windshield with a suction cup since I

 slip seats, and it stays on just fine.  My FF windshield has a curvature

 and I assumed a suction cup wouldn't stay. I'm going to have to dig my

 mount from my gear jammer bag and put it in my flight bag to test it.

 Thanks, Thom.  Hope it works out!

 

 Dave Kulp

 Bethlehem, PA

 FireFly 11DMK

 

 On 10/27/2011 5:40 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:

 > Dave,

 >

 > I use a suction cup mount for my iPhone which I now use for my GPS. It

 > stays on the windshield very well(not fallen off yet) and I can remove

 > it after flight and use it in my car.

 >

 > Thom in Buffalo

 >

 > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:25 PM, David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net (undoctor(at)ptd.net)

 > <mailto:undoctor(at)ptd.net (undoctor(at)ptd.net)>> wrote:

 >

 >     <mailto:undoctor(at)ptd.net (undoctor(at)ptd.net)>>

 >

 >

 >     Kolbers,

 >

 >     I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle and

 >     FireFly.  I currently have it mounted on my instrument panel, but

 >     it's difficult to reach and read from where I sit.  I was trying

 >     to figure another place to put it, limited to the left side, since

 >     I climb in and out the right side.  With the throttle handle on

 >     the left, the only place I can figure would be to attach it to the

 >     windshield about 8" from the bottom.  I would bond a piece of

 >     plastic on the windshield, maybe 4" in diameter, to spread out the

 >     stress on the plastic.  It would be perfect there from my

 >     perspective, but I was wondering about the windshield's perspective.

 >

 >     Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc.

 >

 >     Also have a question about Matco laydown brakes: there's an air

 >     bubble in the one line and I've never bled brakes like those.

 >      Must you disconnect the master cylinder and lift it out into the

 >     open in order to add brake fluid?  I can't really feel any

 >     difference between left and right braking, so maybe I should just

 >     leave well enough alone.  Input would be much appreciated.

 >

 >     Thanks,

 >

 >     Dave Kulp

 >     Bethlehem, PA

 >     FireFly 11DMK

 >

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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:17 am Post subject: GPS in FireFly

i mounted mine on the top of the controll stick...   at first it seemed a 

bit odd,,,  but on a cross country,  it seems just right,,,    only thing i 

could sugest, is to make sure it is at the correct angle for viewing,   had 

to change the angle after the first try.



boyd



Kolbers,



I have a Garmin Zumo GPS which is shared on my pickup, cycle and

FireFly.  I currently have it mounted on my instrument panel, but it's

difficult to reach and read from where I sit.  I was trying to figure

another place to put it, limited to the left side, since I climb in and

out the right side.  With the throttle handle on the left, the only

place I can figure would be to attach it to the windshield about 8" from

the bottom.  I would bond a piece of plastic on the windshield, maybe 4"

in diameter, to spread out the stress on the plastic.  It would be

perfect there from my perspective, but I was wondering about the

windshield's perspective.



Does anyone have any suggestions, cautions, alternate locations, etc.

Don G

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 156
Location: Central Illinois

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: GPS in FireFly

Dave,

 I have a RAM mounted garmin in my KitFox, and I am sure a similiar mount would work in the Fly'...it extends the device about 5 inches toward you when in the straight position, and the RAM system is secure as you can get. I have just recently seen several universal RAM attachments at a trade show and I am pretty certain they have one that would fit your GPS...they look like a sort of spider legged clap deal that binds the device from the sides. this attackment , coupled with the ball and socket RAM mount would easily bolt to the panel.

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Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
RV9A

undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Hi Don,



Was out of power and internet for a few days since that incredible 10" 

OCTOBER! snowfall.  But I'm back now.



My Zumo needs a cradle with about 20 pins, so a universal won't work.  I 

presently have the Zumo and cradle attached to the instrument panel with 

the RAM ball and socket setup you described, but my instrument panel is 

down around my shins, so it's hard to see smaller detail.  I also have a 

RAM suction cup that uses the same ball and socket and a couple on the 

list said they work fine, so I'm going to take it up (I hope tomorrow) 

and move the GPS from the inst. panel to the windshield above and behind 

the throttle.  It is stays on I'm in business.



Thanks for the tips, Don.  Much appreciated.  BTW, since it's probably 

dear to your heart, since I bought a Beemer K1200LT I put my Honda 

ST1100 on the block.  Just sold it today for $2,250.  Not too bad for 10 

years and 129K miles, right?  Of course it really shines in your 

department; I topped off the oil for the buyer and in the 1,400 miles 

since the oil change it was only down .3 qt.  That V4 is a great engine, 

and with the D&D exhaust it sounds terrific, too.



Dave



On 10/31/2011 9:55 PM, Don G wrote:

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 Dave,

   I have a RAM mounted garmin in my KitFox, and I am sure a similiar mount would work in the Fly'...it extends the device about 5 inches toward you when in the straight position, and the RAM system is secure as you can get. I have just recently seen several universal RAM attachments at a trade show and I am pretty certain they have one that would fit your GPS...they look like a sort of spider legged clap deal that binds the device from the sides. this attackment , coupled with the ball and socket RAM mount would easily bolt to the panel.



 --------

 Don G.

 Central Illinois

 Kitfox IV Speedster

 Luscombe 8A





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Don G

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 156
Location: Central Illinois

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:11 am Post subject: Re: GPS in FireFly

It is amazing what resale is on a high mileage ST isnt it? congrats......just a shame we cant adapt that V-4 engine to a aircraft!...(I have given it an awful lot of thought!)...maybe the best engine on the planet!

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Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
RV9A

capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:48 am Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Don ,Hasnt someone already done that?

 

  

 Chris Davis

KXP 503 492 hrs

Glider Pilot

Disabled from crash building Firefly



   

From: Don G <donghe(at)one-eleven.net>

To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:11 AM

Subject: Re: GPS in FireFly



--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe(at)one-eleven.net (donghe(at)one-eleven.net)>



It is amazing what resale is on a high mileage ST isnt it? congrats......just a shame we cant adapt that V-4 engine to a  aircraft!...(I have given it an awful lot of thought!)...maybe the best engine on the planet!



--------

Don G.

Central Illinois

Kitfox IV Speedster

Luscombe 8A





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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: Re: GPS in FireFly

 	  undoctor wrote: 	
		  Hi Don,



<snip> 

 I put my Honda 

ST1100 on the block.  Just sold it today for $2,250.  Not too bad for 10 

years and 129K miles, right?  Of course it really shines in your 

department; I topped off the oil for the buyer and in the 1,400 miles 

since the oil change it was only down .3 qt.  That V4 is a great engine, 

and with the D&D exhaust it sounds terrific, too.



Dave

	
[/quote]



ARRGGHHH!!!!! Why didn't you put it up on the list first? I would have beat your door down for it! Sigh....

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Kolb MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Kingsport, TN 3TN0

Forgiving is tough, being forgiven is wonderful, and God's grace really is amazing.

undoctor

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
Posts: 212
Location: Bethelhem, PA

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: GPS in FireFly

Wish I'd have known, Richard.  Sorry!!!



On 11/2/2011 2:18 PM, Richard Pike wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 undoctor wrote:

> Hi Don,

>   I put my Honda

> ST1100 on the block.  Just sold it today for $2,250.  Not too bad for 10

> years and 129K miles, right?  Of course it really shines in your

> department; I topped off the oil for the buyer and in the 1,400 miles

> since the oil change it was only down .3 qt.  That V4 is a great engine,

> and with the D&D exhaust it sounds terrific, too.

>

> Dave

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 ARRGGHHH!!!!! Why didn't you put it up on the list first? I would have beat your door down for it! Sigh....



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 Richard Pike

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 richard (at) bcchapel(dot)org

 Kingsport, TN 3TN0

 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

 Hebrews 11:1





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