czech6(at)mesanetworks.ne
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The examiner meeting is coming up. I would email the guy in charge in DC and let him know your opinion
Regarding CFIs. To ask the current 4 L29 examiners to help wouldn't work for obvious Reasons. $$$
I'm not saying that is their motivation, but at the present time they are kings.
I would vote for the EAA as representative. Less politics. RPA is more Yak/CJs. I don't know how much
Pull CJAA has anymore. You members need to get in touch NOW. This is in effect now. So we are already
behind the power curve. The concerned organizations should have done something during the NPRM
(Notice of Proposed Rule Making). I have issue with check rides, just the fact that there are only 4 guys that
can do the L29.
Raymond.Stinchcomb(at)faa.gov (Raymond.Stinchcomb(at)faa.gov)
Just mention your concerns with the expense in maintaining currency.
And to consider the CFI answer. He is thinking he will need to appoint a few, 2-3, proficiency
pilot to conduct these rides. That is better. More competition means lower prices.
Each one of the current guys charge $800/day and up. Plus expenses.
When I was doing it, $500/day, and a place to sleep. I have free airline tickets.
I also taught you how to operate your airplane. Emergency gear ext reset, flap system reset,
Fill struts, adjust brakes etc. All you get from them is the ride and a bill for thousands of $$.
Not all are that way, however an extra 3000 to $5000 per year is another $300 to $500
per hour.
That is the message to convey.
Bill
On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | The issue regarding giving the type ride, as well as the annual re-currency is a big issue. For many of us, it would require a major expense to either go the the examiner or bring him to us. This is a nice new rule to use by the Feds to additionally reduce the amount of people left flying these jets.
I appreciate your efforts Bill. However, where is CJAA, EAA warbirds, RPA. When last March the new certification rules became law, there was hardly a peep from any of the organizations and those new rules about flying over populated areas etc were major issues for all of us. Now this issue about annual proficiency check rides requiring examiners.
If the economy and high fuel don't finish us, the Feds will. This proficiency deal needs to be worked out, so a CFI that is qualified in the particular jet in question can give the ride. We need some help with more pull than we have individually. Can someone get the organizations involved. Looking for comments
Bob Schwartz
L-29, YAK 52
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net (czech6(at)mesanetworks.net)>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)" <l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 11:34 AM
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I just made 3 more calls to DC. No luck.2 months ago I talked with the guy in charge of designee examiners. I explained that
It is an undo hardship on the pilots/students to pay $5000 for a type ride. His response, "Well it's like getting a type in a Lear.
You have to pay for the ride" I tried to explain the difference. You can imagine how that went. He said we have
Plenty of examiners to cover the need. ThIs of course took place prior to the new rule.
I called the Administrators office, no answer.
Still trying to carry our concerns to them. Stay tuned.
Bill
On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Jon Boede <jonboede(at)hotmail.com (jonboede(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Did the FAA do the weight and balance on this one before launching? Apparently not... given just the number of L-29 and L-39 guys in the country divided by the number of examiners makes this the "EAE 170% Employment Act of 2012".
I actually look forward to the little kick in the behind that getting ready for a checkride gives me, but locating an examiner and getting their schedule to mesh with mine is going to be a real pain in the rear.
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From: colyergreg(at)aol.com (colyergreg(at)aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:10:08 -0800
To: l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)
Yea, as of now it's an examiner....
Greg
415-531-0970
www.AceMakerAirshows.com
On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:13 PM, delfin <delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com (delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks Bill and Greg. It was never clear to me whether any CFI that can give dual in the L-29 for example qualifies for this new FAA requirement. I will be looking forward to more info . thanks
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net (czech6(at)mesanetworks.net)>
To: "l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)" <l29-list(at)matronics.com (l29-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:04 PM
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Bob,
I have called and sent multi email to Washington for clarification. No answer. Of course with Randy Babbitt being drunk on the side of the road, it may take awhile. It will count as a BFR.
In which case it will need to be a qualified CFI.
I'll let you know when thy get back to me.
Merry Christmas, happy new year, blue sky's , smooth sailing, following seas & fair winds.
That should cover everyone.
Bill
On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:46 PM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com (l29delfin(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | With the start of the new year I am hoping someone can clarify the new regulation requiring an annual recurrency with an instructor to carry passengers in the jets. What constitutes an instructor that is acceptable. Any instructor that can give dual in the L-29, or a examiner that can give a type rating ? I understand that the ride must be in type also. Can Bill or someone please clarify what exactly needs to take place. Also, does this ride also act as a bi-annual ride? thanks for information
Bob Schwartz
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