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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: No Title Reply with quote

Just look where "not kicking the hornets nest" has gotten us so far.

David

John Fischer wrote:
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Bill,

This where membership in organizations like AOPA, EAA, WOA, CJAA and
Red Star come in to play.
Contact them and let them handle the interaction with the FAA and
clarifying the rules.
That will help prevent several interpretations of the same reg, and
will keep everyone on track.

Also every member of those organizations add clout to their
interaction with the government.
Think of it this way, if you were the government employee, would you
rather get 10000+ calls from pilots.
Or two - three calls from organizations that represent the pilots.
Who is going to get the best results?

So, the best advice, don't kick the hornets nest.

Laterrrrrr
Avn-Tech
On 1/3/2012 9:34 AM, Bill Geipel wrote:
> I just made 3 more calls to DC. No luck.2 months ago I talked with
> the guy in charge of designee examiners. I explained that
> It is an undo hardship on the pilots/students to pay $5000 for a type
> ride. His response, "Well it's like getting a type in a Lear.
> You have to pay for the ride" I tried to explain the difference. You
> can imagine how that went. He said we have
> Plenty of examiners to cover the need. ThIs of course took place
> prior to the new rule.
> I called the Administrators office, no answer.
> Still trying to carry our concerns to them. Stay tuned.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Jon Boede <jonboede(at)hotmail.com
> <mailto:jonboede(at)hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Did the FAA do the weight and balance on this one before launching?
>> Apparently not... given just the number of L-29 and L-39 guys in the
>> country divided by the number of examiners makes this the "EAE 170%
>> Employment Act of 2012".
>>
>> I actually look forward to the little kick in the behind that
>> getting ready for a checkride gives me, but locating an examiner and
>> getting their schedule to mesh with mine is going to be a real pain
>> in the rear.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Subject: Re: Re:
>> From: colyergreg(at)aol.com <mailto:colyergreg(at)aol.com>
>> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:10:08 -0800
>> To: l29-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:l29-list(at)matronics.com>
>>
>> Yea, as of now it's an examiner....
>>
>>
>> Greg
>> 415-531-0970
>> www.AceMakerAirshows.com <http://www.AceMakerAirshows.com>
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:13 PM, delfin <delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com
>> <mailto:delfin_driver(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Bill and Greg. It was never clear to me whether any CFI
>> that can give dual in the L-29 for example qualifies for this
>> new FAA requirement. I will be looking forward to more info .
>> thanks
>> *From:* Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net
>> <mailto:czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>>
>> *To:* "l29-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:l29-list(at)matronics.com>"
>> <l29-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:l29-list(at)matronics.com>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2012 4:04 PM
>> *Subject:* Re:
>>
>> Bob,
>> I have called and sent multi email to Washington for
>> clarification. No answer. Of course with Randy Babbitt being
>> drunk on the side of the road, it may take awhile. It will count
>> as a BFR.
>> In which case it will need to be a qualified CFI.
>> I'll let you know when thy get back to me.
>>
>> Merry Christmas, happy new year, blue sky's , smooth sailing,
>> following seas & fair winds.
>> That should cover everyone.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:46 PM, delfin <l29delfin(at)yahoo.com
>> <mailto:l29delfin(at)yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>
>> With the start of the new year I am hoping someone can
>> clarify the new regulation requiring an annual recurrency
>> with an instructor to carry passengers in the jets. What
>> constitutes an instructor that is acceptable. Any
>> instructor that can give dual in the L-29, or a examiner
>> that can give a type rating ? I understand that the ride
>> must be in type also. Can Bill or someone please clarify
>> what exactly needs to take place. Also, does this ride also
>> act as a bi-annual ride? thanks for information
>>
>>
>> Bob Schwartz
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