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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 01/04/12 Reply with quote

I purchased one a couple of years ago, fitted it with ANR, modified the ear cups, and added padding/spacers between the ear cups and helmet, so I could hear. It has worked well.

The only problem is the helmet is made of hard fiberglass and expands very little when trying to pull over your head.
Also, if the ear cups don't have enough spacer thickness , then it will be noisy, even with the ANR.

I do like the built in visor and it comes with clear and tinted shields. The helmets are a little uncomfortable, but you get used to it. I have an ANR problem at the moment and am using an alternate headset.

Garry
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1. 05:48 AM - ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (Drew B)
2. 06:27 AM - Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (Richard Hess)
3. 06:56 AM - Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (Kurt Howerton)
4. 08:00 AM - Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (Brian Lloyd)
5. 09:53 AM - Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
6. 10:03 AM - Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (George Coy)
7. 10:13 AM - Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (Kregg Victory)
8. 12:08 PM - Re: Barry's concerns (barryhancock)
9. 12:25 PM - Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms (Bill Geipel)
10. 12:33 PM - RPA discussions on the Yak-list (barryhancock)
11. 01:21 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
12. 03:30 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Brian Lloyd)
13. 03:46 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
14. 04:17 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Brian Lloyd)
15. 04:42 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
16. 05:01 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)
17. 06:20 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Roger Kemp M.D.)
18. 07:00 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Gary Gabbard)
19. 07:04 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Bitterlich, Mark G CIV Det Cherry Point, MALS-14 64E)
20. 07:34 PM - Chinese Flight Helmets (Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer)
21. 08:01 PM - Update on My New Whirlwind 3 Blade Prop (Sam Sax)
22. 08:13 PM - Re: RPA discussions on the Yak-list (Brian Lloyd)
23. 08:55 PM - Re: Chinese Flight Helmets (Kurt Howerton)
24. 09:20 PM - Re: Chinese Flight Helmets (Javier Carrasco)
25. 09:20 PM - Re: Chinese Flight Helmets (Javier Carrasco)
26. 11:31 PM - Re: Update on My New Whirlwind 3 Blade Prop (Jan Mevis)
27. 11:42 PM - Calculation of C of G in percentage MAC (Jan Mevis)



________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________


Time: 05:48:55 AM PST US
Subject: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms
From: Drew B <dblahnick(at)gmail.com>

Bill, et all: The RPA Forum has some code issues logging in, I emailed with
our IT guy, I would let some of this get worked through, otherwise folks
may get frustrated and give up.

Brian,

I hope you read Part I of my open letter to this list, while I can not
recall all your efforts in that letter, I noted both of your basic concerns
you posted about your contribution, and I would like to go on the record
now, again, that I was well aware of how the "old guard" (your descriptor)
was reacting to you.

For the record, Brian asked to teach the ground school and I OKed that at
ARS, he was intelligent, highly motivated and technically accurate (while
the content provided via the old YPA manual was not as comprehensive
detailed as your current RPA material, Brian as you can imagine knew the
material).

I witnessed, and was a part of (you were not Brian) a conversation I was
not comfortable then, or now, concerning yourself and I relate to it in
Part I. Enough said.

This is not a condemnation of any one person, and it can happen anywhere in
the RPA; As an example, I know of a highly intelligent CJ owner, and huge
volunteer in aviation programs outside the RPA, but (I suspect) his
proclivity to speak up openly about what is wrong in an attempt t make your
organization function better (for you), and perhaps his lack of a military
aviators credentials (my hunch only) resulted in a flurry of RPA emails
painting him in a negative light that was highly short sighted and
unwarranted. His attitude and motivation to learn is one of the best I've
come across.

I would like to make an obvious call; this is a *civilian* aviation
organization. Some of the activities we do originated in/are employed by
the military and I'm a huge sponsor of you learning from their technical
material (i.e. your AF/Navy sourced RPA manual). But If there is a
qualitative difference in a mans (or woman) ability to brief a flight, lead
a flight, demonstrate situational awareness as a wingman, execute brevity
on the radio in formation, deliver a seminar (public speaking), organize
"troops" at a fly-in or any other skill sets seen often in the RPA via your
fly-ins, than *all* this should say to all military aviators in the RPA is
simply this; this is your opportunity to help others.

By the way, every trick and scrape of knowledge I learned about operating
in the civilian airspace or turning a wrench on a CJ6 came from a lawyer,
general contractor, dentist, flower importer, etc....Having said that, you,
me and everyone has to be willing to listen when someone is trying to help
us with a nugget of knowledge or advice; it goes back to that age old
saying, "park your ego at the door". We all struggle with that skill set
don't we...

A recommendation was made a few years back to the BoD that the next RPA
president should be a military aviator, I wrote some of the national
directors that I disagreed, strongly. There should be NO such filter,
except ones desire and proposed agenda for the membership, as long as the
RPA functions under effective bylaws, the selection of good stewardship of
a civilian organization should be color blind. We are not leading troops or
planes in to battle, we are developing, managing and producing membership
services (websites, magazines, internet newsletters, clothing sales,
training documents, instructor development, fly-in support, etc.)

And if you read my letter on this list, our bylaws are badly in need of the
BoDs attention in 2012; I am now certain the anachronistic (did I just use
that word correctly Brian) role of "president" should end after this
administration in favor of a Chairman of the Board, accountable and from
that Board.


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*(ancient racing proverb I probably just made up)*
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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________


Time: 06:27:42 AM PST US
Subject: Re: ARS and Brian Lloyd, and RPA comms
From: Richard Hess <hess737(at)aol.com>


Drew,
Thanks for all the info. I would like to piggyback on your comment about it
being a civilian organization as it relates to the tactical comments from
some earlier posts.

I may have been one of the first to question us doing tactical events. I ha
d a near miss doing one of these exercises at Waycross a few years ago. It
sobered me as to the risks and made me question what the organization itsel
f should be endorsing.

I also flew in a 24-ship at Oshkosh some years ago. High winds and an overw
orked airboss made for a less than pleasant experience. Again, I began to q
uestion what we are doing as an organization.

My company does lots of maintenance and training for some third world air f
orces. We in essense have a contract with the US State Dept. They control w
hat we are approved to do. Much of what we freely share at RPA and CJAA I a
m prohibited from teaching overseas. Interesting, eh?

My point is that we have a very wide variety of experience levels in our co
mmunity. Some of us have done all the tactical stuff in our previous lives,
some have not. I believe an individual instructor should choose what level
to teach someone based on that person's skills, experience, and desires. F
ormation and tactical flying makes you a better pilot, period.

However, the emphasis should be on basics. A guy who can barely hang on the
wing in 2 or 4-ship has no business being in a 24-ship. A guy who can't do
extended trail without parking in the lead's six and sucking up his wake t
urbulence has no business doing tactical maneuvering.

Everyone can and should strive for perfection in the basics and then contin
ue to practice and learn new things. However, there is a real risk to RPA p
ublishing and endorsing high level activities. I promise any accident can a
nd will come back to bite us. I believe we can deal with this kind of activ
ity on a local level.

Anyway, sorry for being long winded but I love you guys and this flying so
much that I hate to see safety being compromised in any way. What we do is
already a high risk activity. It is up to us to manage that risk so that we
have the pleasure of this privilege for a long time to come.

Cheers


Richard Hess
C 404-964-4885


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