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samira.h(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:34 pm Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Anybody has ever tried one of these?



http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Jet-Pilot-Flight-Open-Motorcycle-Black-Helmet-Mask-/180643539958?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&hash=item2a0f31abf6



Are they worth the effort and

costs to have them equipped with 

an American GA communication system?



cheers



Elmar

grabstein(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Yup - got two. One for me and one for the wife.



Oregon Aero electronics. They work great and cost less than 1/2 what I

could find an HGU for.



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On Jan 4, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



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 Anybody has ever tried one of these?



 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Jet-Pilot-Flight-Open-Motorcycle-Black-Helmet-Mask-/180643539958?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&hash=item2a0f31abf6



 Are they worth the effort and

 costs to have them equipped with

 an American GA communication system?



 cheers



 Elmar

javiercarrascob

Joined: 06 Sep 2009
Posts: 62
Location: Virginia

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Hi Elma,

  

 Not sure if they are worth the effort, 

  

 For one thing, weight, they look havy. also they look too tall, not a fit for our Yaks (you'll scratch the canopy).

  

 Over three months I  bought a fiber glass HGU-33 for 300$ in perfect usable condition. Also from Ebay I upgraded the cables to have a quick disconnect for an extra 45$.

  

 If you need to get off the plane in a hurry you may not have time to unplug the headset, so get a quick disconnet from Gibsons and Barns (or e-bay).

  

 The lightest helmet you can get is the HGU-55. But I really can't tell the difference between the 2 they are really light.

  

 My 2 cents.

  

 Javier N54245H

 Yak-55m



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From: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca>

Subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

To: Yak-List(at)matronics.com

Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 10:30 PM



 --> Yak-List message posted by: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca (samira.h(at)shaw.ca)>



Anybody has ever tried one of these?



http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Jet-Pilot-Flight-Open-Motorcycle-Black-Helmet-Mask-/180643539958?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&hash=item2a0f31abf6



Are they worth the effort and

costs to have them equipped with 

an American GA communication system?



cheers



Elmar



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javiercarrascob

Joined: 06 Sep 2009
Posts: 62
Location: Virginia

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Hi Elma,

  

 Not sure if they are worth the effort, 

  

 For one thing, weight, they look havy. also they look too tall, not a fit for our Yaks (you'll scratch the canopy).

  

 Over three months I  bought a fiber glass HGU-33 for 300$ in perfect usable condition. Also from Ebay I upgraded the cables to have a quick disconnect for an extra 45$.

  

 If you need to get off the plane in a hurry you may not have time to unplug the headset, so get a quick disconnet from Gibsons and Barns (or e-bay).

  

 The lightest helmet you can get is the HGU-55. But I really can't tell the difference between the 2 they are really light.

  

 My 2 cents.

  

 Javier N54245H

 Yak-55m



--- On Wed, 1/4/12, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



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From: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca>

Subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

To: Yak-List(at)matronics.com

Date: Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 10:30 PM



 --> Yak-List message posted by: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca (samira.h(at)shaw.ca)>



Anybody has ever tried one of these?



http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Jet-Pilot-Flight-Open-Motorcycle-Black-Helmet-Mask-/180643539958?pt=Apparel_Merchandise&hash=item2a0f31abf6



Are they worth the effort and

costs to have them equipped with 

an American GA communication system?



cheers



Elmar



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hess737(at)aol.com
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

I set up one with normal com. A friend set one up with ANR. They're good for the price.

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samira.h(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Thank you everybody for their

input on that matter, very much

appreciated.



It looks like those helmets are

a sort of surplus from the PLAAF

but I have the feeling they might

be cheap replicas and not suitable

for any flight operation.



Thank you again.



cheers



Elmar

hess737(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Ours are real PLAAF helmets. 



Rich

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samira.h(at)shaw.ca
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:57 am Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Hi again,



I have sent this ebay seller 

an email regarding those 

Chinese Flight Helmets.



Here comes his answer:



 

Dear cj6adriver,



hi dear cj6adriver

thanks for your reply.for this

helmet.is for flight operation.and

the wuality is very good, the

protective enclosure is made of

glass fiber reinforced

materials .and eyeglass for the pc

material, has good anti-impact

performance is not broken.

Anti-collision energy is not less

than 89.67J. Anti-penetration energy

of not less than 58.8J.Quality

goggles can withstand 1g, 5.5mm

diameter sand to 100m / s speed of

impact.

many people purchuse it from me and

leave me positive me positive

feedback,you will find it really

worths your money on it when you get

it.

If you have any question,please feel

free to email me and i will be glad

to give you my help!

Looking forward of the cooperation

with you soon!

Regards

yan



- shop2009mb

What do you make out of this?



cheers



Elmar

javiercarrascob

Joined: 06 Sep 2009
Posts: 62
Location: Virginia

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Sounds Good!

  

 Just make sure you have proper canopy clearence and that you add a quick disconnect device.

  

 The quick disconnect should be same side as your Headset plug, never have the cord across your chest or behind your neck, you don't want to have your neck snap because the comms are still connected while you try to getout of the plane in a rush.

  

 JC



--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca> wrote:



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From: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca>

Subject: Re: Chinese Flight Helmets

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, January 6, 2012, 1:50 PM



 --> Yak-List message posted by: Elmar & Manuela Hegenauer <samira.h(at)shaw.ca (samira.h(at)shaw.ca)>



Hi again,



I have sent this ebay seller 

an email regarding those 

Chinese Flight Helmets.



Here comes his answer:

Dear cj6adriver,



hi dear cj6adriver

thanks for your reply.for this

helmet.is for flight operation.and

the wuality is very good, the

protective enclosure is made of

glass fiber reinforced

materials .and eyeglass for the pc

material, has good anti-impact

performance is not broken.

Anti-collision energy is not less

than 89.67J. Anti-penetration energy

of not less than 58.8J.Quality

goggles can withstand 1g, 5.5mm

diameter sand to 100m / s speed of

impact.

many people purchuse it from me and

leave me positive me positive

feedback,you  will find it really

worths your money on it when you get

it.

If you have any question,please feel

free to email me and i will be glad

to give you my help!

Looking forward of the cooperation

with you soon!

Regards

yan



- shop2009mb

What do ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Yak-List" target=_blank>http://www.matr;  --> 



	
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Harv

Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Posts: 172

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Chinese Flight Helmets

Elmar

Be careful, as the link you posted to helmets is not for proper PLAA ones.



I purchased 2 of the 'genuine' helmets from the seller listed in the link below and they are far superior in materials and construction to the 'motorcycle quality' ones..



They cost me around $250 each for the helmets plus about another $150 each to convert  to GA for use in my CJ. 



Contact the seller and get him to confirm the original speakers and foam ear seals are included.



Don't be put off by the oxygen mask, just un-clip it and discard. 



You will need to add a goose neck flex boom with electret mic and support which means drilling the helmet and also buy a GA wire harness from someone like Oregon Aero. 



The original speakers mounted in these helmets work just fine and their ohm range is just fine for our GA radios.



Interestingly I converted my helmets at the same time as we we're removing the old military radio wiring out of my CJ6 and the connection plug on these 'fast jet' helmets is exactly the same as the harness in the Chang and they plugged straight in 

Everyhting this guy sell's is genuine ex-military....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PILOT-HELMET-FLIGHT-HELMET-TK-2A-OXYGEN-MASK-/260917439260?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbfe42b1c



Rgs

Martin

samira.h(at)shaw.ca
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Hi Martin,



thank you very much for your input

and the link, that is quite an

eye-opener.



I will contact that seller the next

days and go from there.



Thanks again everybody for helping me

out.



cheers



Elmar

cd001633(at)mindspring.co
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: Chinese Flight Helmets

Elmar,

I tried using one of these original PLAA helmets...  (I still have it if

anyone is interested...) I am sure it can be retrofitted etc. but the main

issue I had with it was its weight...  It is very heavy and very rigid (no

spreading flex when putting it on or pulling off your head..).  As was

mentioned on the List before, the U.S Helmets (HGU 55, HGU-68 for example)

are much lighter and a lot easier to work with.  The U.S Helmet's stock

insulation/sound attenuation is far superior also which will make the ANR

conversion effect a lot better.  I use the HGU-68 as it's a comfortable one

hand operation to just the visor, the visor adjusting knob is offset to the

left of center allowing more clearance to the top of the canopy (as compared

to the older HGU-33).  By the time you add the $79.00 shipping to the

$250.00 cost, you are just about the cost of a good U.S made helmet, ...and

your neck will appreciate it too (especially if you are over 50 and like to

pull some 'G'... ).



Just my two cents...



Sam Sax

Miami, FL





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