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 Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:21 pm Post subject: Interesting Article on Failing inspection. |
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I made my own inspection checklist just because of this. The order of items to be checked does a number of engine checks that might fail an annual. For example, I got caught in a "catch 22" with an engine that failed a compression test but I'd already changed the oil and checked the timing.
Gary
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On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Walt Beaulieu <aviation(at)acs-group.net (aviation(at)acs-group.net)> wrote:
[quote]Interesting article... I did not know this.
http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201203?pg=54#pg54
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: Interesting Article on Failing inspection. |
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On 3/4/2012 11:21 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | I made my own inspection checklist just because of this. The order of
items to be checked does a number of engine checks that might fail an
annual. For example, I got caught in a "catch 22" with an engine that
failed a compression test but I'd already changed the oil and checked
the timing.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Walt Beaulieu <aviation(at)acs-group.net
<mailto:aviation(at)acs-group.net>> wrote:
> Interesting article... I did not know this.
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> http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201203?pg=54#pg54
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This has been noted in the FAR's for as long as I can remember. It is
rarely used, however. I think I only failed to sign off one annual
inspection and provided the owner a list of discrepancies during the
past 15 years. Mike does make an interesting comment that an owner can
request a list of discrepancies and such a sign off if he disagrees with
the IA over some issue, and then take it to some other A&P who may agree
with the owner and thereby get the discrepancy "corrected". This could
be a very subjective decision on the part of both. Seems like the IA
doing the annual inspection should state his reason as to why the item
is unairworthy.
Also, I have wondered why the IA should not put the list of
discrepancies in the log book rather than handing the owner a list of a
piece of paper which could be modified and even forged.
Cliff
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: Interesting Article on Failing inspection. |
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"Also, I have wondered why the IA should not put the list of discrepancies in the log book rather than handing the owner a list of a piece of paper which could be modified and even forged."
My thoughts exactly. I keep a running inspection checklist and give that to the owner.
The plane I flew to Ames, IA, I had bee maintaining for 6 years. �LOTS of comments in the checklist. I told the owner to request just the checklist. Lot more info in it.
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On 3/4/2012 11:21 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | I made my own inspection checklist just because of this. The order of
items to be checked does a number of engine checks that might fail an
annual. For example, I got caught in a "catch 22" with an engine that
failed a compression test but I'd already changed the oil and checked
the timing.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Walt Beaulieu <aviation(at)acs-group.net (aviation(at)acs-group.net)
<mailto:aviation(at)acs-group.net (aviation(at)acs-group.net)>> wrote:
> Interesting article... I did not know this.
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> http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201203?pg=54#pg54
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This has been noted in the FAR's for as long as I can remember. It is rarely used, however. I think I only failed to sign off one annual inspection and provided the owner a list of discrepancies during the past 15 years. Mike does make an interesting comment that an owner can request a list of discrepancies and such a sign off if he disagrees with the IA over some issue, and then take it to some other A&P who may agree with the owner and thereby get the discrepancy "corrected". This could be a very subjective decision on the part of both. Seems like the IA doing the annual inspection should state his reason as to why the item is unairworthy.
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