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arplnplt(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

I am planning to fly into KLDJ (Linden NJ) in a couple weeks.  Visiting family in Manhattan.

Any advice for a novice IFR pilot?

Thanks.



Dave Leikam



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Yessiree, I have advice.



FLY THE HUDSON!



If you go there and don't do that, you will regret it.....do it while

our skies are still free enough that you can do such awesome things!



Google it, and you'll find all the web write-ups you need to

get the info it takes.

Tim



On 5/3/2012 3:01 PM, David Leikam wrote:

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 I am planning to fly into KLDJ (Linden NJ) in a couple weeks.  Visiting family in Manhattan.

 Any advice for a novice IFR pilot?

 Thanks.



 Dave Leikam

rv10flyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Like any class B airspace, they talk fast and at times can be pretty busy in 

the Newark/La Guardia and Kennedy airspace which extends down to 

Philadelphia. Linden is very close to EWR and right at the floor of 800ft 

for traffic, departing the liners make a turn after departures so that will 

not be an issue but if the winds favor the arrivals north the ILS expect the 

vectors and approach landing to the east.

Good thing is listen to Live ATC for Newark Approach a while and you'll pick 

up the way thy communicate.

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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

I have several trips from Virginia to Connecticut and each time did VFR over JFK at 7500' or 8500' with flight following.  The controllers always handed me just like the big boys, and let me penetrate Class B on the let down (north side of the Class B).

As Tim says, do the Hudson.  North to south is my preference.  You fly the plane and watch out for the helos -  let the passengers take the photos.

Carl

On May 3, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Yessiree, I have advice.

 FLY THE HUDSON!

 If you go there and don't do that, you will regret it.....do it while

 our skies are still free enough that you can do such awesome things!

 Google it, and you'll find all the web write-ups you need to

 get the info it takes.

 Tim

 On 5/3/2012 3:01 PM, David Leikam wrote:

> 

> 

> I am planning to fly into KLDJ (Linden NJ) in a couple weeks.  Visiting family in Manhattan.

> Any advice for a novice IFR pilot?

> Thanks.

> 

> Dave Leikam

>

rv10flyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Skyline Route-make sure you read carefully the special flight rules.

Pascal



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Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Tim's advice is spot on. Fly it one way then turn around and go the other

way. Short flight and your passengers can get some great pics. I didn't

circle the statue but wish I would have. If the corridor is still 1000-1300'

you are plenty low for pictures as well as just looking.

Don't miss it.

Albert Gardner

N991RV

Yuma, AZ

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:22 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Yeah, if I do it again, I'm going both directions and returning to

the airport where I started or at least the area where I started.

It was an awesome trip that went by too fast...and it's one of

the things I want to fly again before we can't.

You have to do things now, because it will only get more

restrictive. I'm not sure what the status is today, but I

know things are changing for Grand Canyon too...and that's another

one you just don't want to miss the boat on.

Tim



On 5/3/2012 3:59 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:

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 Tim's advice is spot on. Fly it one way then turn around and go the other

 way. Short flight and your passengers can get some great pics. I didn't

 circle the statue but wish I would have. If the corridor is still 1000-1300'

 you are plenty low for pictures as well as just looking.

 Don't miss it.

 Albert Gardner

 N991RV

 Yuma, AZ

arplnplt(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Thanks everyone.  I will try to make time to fly the Hudson.  We will be arriving around 9pm EDT and then spending several days in the city.  This is the first of many trips out there so It will happen.



Dave leikam



On May 3, 2012, at 3:01 PM, David Leikam wrote:



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 I am planning to fly into KLDJ (Linden NJ) in a couple weeks.  Visiting family in Manhattan.

 Any advice for a novice IFR pilot?

 Thanks.

 

 Dave Leikam

 

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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Planning to do Grand Canyon in a week or two.  Favorite links or tips 

anyone?

Will do Sedona too.

Bill "ready for a trip" Watson

On 5/3/2012 5:21 PM, Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Yeah, if I do it again, I'm going both directions and returning to

 the airport where I started or at least the area where I started.

 It was an awesome trip that went by too fast...and it's one of

 the things I want to fly again before we can't.

 You have to do things now, because it will only get more

 restrictive. I'm not sure what the status is today, but I

 know things are changing for Grand Canyon too...and that's another

 one you just don't want to miss the boat on.

 Tim

 On 5/3/2012 3:59 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:

> 

> Gardner"<ibspud(at)roadrunner.com>

>

> Tim's advice is spot on. Fly it one way then turn around and go the 

> other

> way. Short flight and your passengers can get some great pics. I didn't

> circle the statue but wish I would have. If the corridor is still 

> 1000-1300'

> you are plenty low for pictures as well as just looking.

> Don't miss it.

> Albert Gardner

> N991RV

> Yuma, AZ

>

arplnplt(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:02 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

We did Sedona a few weeks ago.  Beautiful.  Was a bit gusty but no worse than any other x-wind landing.



Dave Leikam



On May 3, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Bill Watson wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Planning to do Grand Canyon in a week or two.  Favorite links or tips anyone?

 

 Will do Sedona too.

 

 Bill "ready for a trip" Watson

 

 On 5/3/2012 5:21 PM, Tim Olson wrote:

> 

> 

> Yeah, if I do it again, I'm going both directions and returning to

> the airport where I started or at least the area where I started.

> It was an awesome trip that went by too fast...and it's one of

> the things I want to fly again before we can't.

> You have to do things now, because it will only get more

> restrictive. I'm not sure what the status is today, but I

> know things are changing for Grand Canyon too...and that's another

> one you just don't want to miss the boat on.

> Tim

> 

> 

> 

> On 5/3/2012 3:59 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> Tim's advice is spot on. Fly it one way then turn around and go the other

>> way. Short flight and your passengers can get some great pics. I didn't

>> circle the statue but wish I would have. If the corridor is still 1000-1300'

>> you are plenty low for pictures as well as just looking.

>> Don't miss it.

>> Albert Gardner

>> N991RV

>> Yuma, AZ

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Good lunch or breakfast at Temple Bar U30 (they'll pick you up), Grand

Canyon West 1G4 is right on the South Rim of the canyon, Lake Mead to the

west is flyable at low levels. Afternoon convective activity over the canyon

area. Beautiful area to fly over. Monument Valley UT25 and Goulding's Lodge

is 120 miles NE of Grand Canyon National Park GNC. Winslow INW and the

meteor crater is 90 miles SE of GNC. 

Albert Gardner

N991RV

Yuma, AZ

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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: Flight into NY airspace.

re: Grand Canyon:



I cannot say it enough, skip GCN (Grand Canyon Airport). It is expensive, 100LL very expensive, not at all GA friendly. It caters to the tour operators.



Instead go to Valle (40G), 25 miles or so south of GCN. Very GA friendly, reasonable gas prices. If you want to tour the park on the ground the FBO has a couple of reasonably priced rental cars (reserve in advance). There is an adequate motel/restaurant within walking distance of the airport.



The airport density altitude can be high, but no problem for an RV as long as you're under gross.

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Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

We spent a week in NYC after landing at Westchester Co. HPN, tied down at

Panorama where they treated us well and took us over to White Plains to

catch the Metro North line for a fast trip down to the city. Fly SW 12 miles

to enter the Skyline Route at Alpine Tower for a flight down the Hudson.

First Flight FFA at Kill Devil Hills is 300 miles south. Just a suggestion.

:^)

Albert Gardner

N991RV

Yuma, AZ

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RV-9A N872RV
RV-10 N991RV

Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 8:19 am Post subject: Flight into NY airspace.

Yes, KHPN has become our favored NYC landing spot.  Panorama is very 

nice and friendly.  Don't have an urgent need to leave on time... delays 

sometimes mimic the majors.



On 5/3/2012 7:45 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:

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 We spent a week in NYC after landing at Westchester Co. HPN, tied down at

 Panorama where they treated us well and took us over to White Plains to

 catch the Metro North line for a fast trip down to the city. Fly SW 12 miles

 to enter the Skyline Route at Alpine Tower for a flight down the Hudson.

 First Flight FFA at Kill Devil Hills is 300 miles south. Just a suggestion.

 :^)

 Albert Gardner

 N991RV

 Yuma, AZ

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