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johnwigney(at)windstream.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:52 am Post subject: Large birds?

Hi David,

       

       I can endorse your conclusion regarding large birds. In my part of       the world, it is common to find large hawks       and vultures       circling in thermals up to many thousands of feet. I have learned       never to fly under these birds as they will close their wings and       drop when they see a plane nearby. I always fly round them or pull       over them.

       

       Cheers, John

       

       N262WF, mono XS, 912S

       Mooresville, North Carolina

          [quote]ORIGINAL MESSAGE

... Now when confronted with a large bird looking as though 

it is coming through the screen I reckon the smart move is 

to pull up, as birds are likely to dive in a panic 

situation as their only means of rapidly gaining speed to 

avoid a threat, but when it first happened I hesitated a 

bit before turning right, wondering whether the bird knew 

the rules of the air![b]

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wdaniell(at)etb.net.co
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:35 am Post subject: Large birds?

In Colombia you find a lot of these large Sh** hawks and often very high.

 

The rule that we always follow is to let them get out of your way they fly better than you and they don’t have noisy engines so they can hear you and are perfectly capable of working out where you are going.  If you start to try and dodge them you end up in situation similar to that with an oncoming pedestrian when you both go one way and then both go the other.

 

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Sent: 17 June, 2012 08:51

To: David Joyce; Europa-List

Subject: Large birds?

 

Hi David,



I can endorse your conclusion regarding large birds. In my part of the world, it is common to find large hawks and vultures circling in thermals up to many thousands of feet. I have learned never to fly under these birds as they will close their wings and drop when they see a plane nearby. I always fly round them or pull over them.



Cheers, John



N262WF, mono XS, 912S

Mooresville, North Carolina



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davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: Large birds?

William, I have met lots of buzzards and the occasional 

peregrine in thermals in my gliding days, when I would 

have been doing something like 50 kts, and they have 

generally turned and dived without me needing to change my 

course. However approaching a large bird at 130kts is a 

different thing- I don't think their reflexes are geared 

to other aerial things doing hat sort of speed, and feel 

that they are likely to go downwards and that if I am 

going to have a bird strike the underside of the plane is 

the best place for it. They are also most unlikely to ne 

able to match my climb rate. The few very large 

vultures/eagles I have met in Spain have gone serenely on 

their way without blinking, clearly assuming that every 

thing else in the sky would naturally get out of heir way!

Regards, David Joyce

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:34:57 -0500

  "William Daniell" <wdaniell(at)etb.net.co> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   In Colombia you find a lot of these large Sh** hawks and 

often very high.

 

 

 

 The rule that we always follow is to let them get out of 

your way they fly

 better than you and they don't have noisy engines so 

they can hear you and

 are perfectly capable of working out where you are 

going.  If you start to

 try and dodge them you end up in situation similar to 

that with an oncoming

 pedestrian when you both go one way and then both go the 

other.

 

 

 

 will

 

 

 

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On 

Behalf Of John Wigney

 Sent: 17 June, 2012 08:51

 To: David Joyce; Europa-List

 Subject: Large birds?

 

 

 

 Hi David,

 

 I can endorse your conclusion regarding large birds. In 

my part of the

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 circling in thermals

 up to many thousands of feet. I have learned never to 

fly under these birds

 as they will close their wings and drop when they see a 

plane nearby. I

 always fly round them or pull over them.

 

 Cheers, John

 

 N262WF, mono XS, 912S

 Mooresville, North Carolina

 

 

 

 ORIGINAL MESSAGE

 .... Now when confronted with a large bird looking as 

though 

 it is coming through the screen I reckon the smart move 

is 

 to pull up, as birds are likely to dive in a panic 

 situation as their only means of rapidly gaining speed 

to 

 avoid a threat, but when it first happened I hesitated a 

 bit before turning right, wondering whether the bird 

knew 

 the rules of the air!

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