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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

Does anyone have a good source for the cork gaskets used with the Comant CI 122 VHF Com antennas? When I removed them from the old RV-8 fuselage, I must have put them in a very "safe" place and now I can't find them anywhere. Guess they're pretty safe. Anyway, I need to order a couple more but I checked the Chief, Pacific Coast Avionics, and ACS web pages and found the antennas but no references to just ordering the cork gaskets.

<http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf>http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:33 pm    Post subject: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

Probably easiest to visit your friendly National Air Parts Store or
AirplaneZone for a roll of cork gasket material and cut yourself ones
to fit. Nothing special about those gaskets.

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:
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Does anyone have a good source for the cork gaskets used with the Comant CI 122 VHF Com antennas? When I removed them from the old RV-8 fuselage, I must have put them in a very "safe" place and now I can't find them anywhere. Guess they're pretty safe. Anyway, I need to order a couple more but I checked the Chief, Pacific Coast Avionics, and ACS web pages and found the antennas but no references to just ordering the cork gaskets.

<http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf>http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf

Thanks for any tips...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

Seems like I recall someone recommending discarding the gasket and going
for direct metal to metal.

Anyone doing that? Why?

Bill Watson
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On 8/6/2012 11:19 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
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Does anyone have a good source for the cork gaskets used with the Comant CI 122 VHF Com antennas? When I removed them from the old RV-8 fuselage, I must have put them in a very "safe" place and now I can't find them anywhere. Guess they're pretty safe. Anyway, I need to order a couple more but I checked the Chief, Pacific Coast Avionics, and ACS web pages and found the antennas but no references to just ordering the cork gaskets.

<http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf>http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf

Thanks for any tips...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

At the airlines, we do Direct Metal to Metal to effect an improved groundplane.  We also treat the skin agains corrosion (Alodine), then Fillet seal the antenna flange to the skin for water-tight integrity.  The biggest failure is returning the aircraft to service too soon, pressurizing the cabin for passengers and getting blow-outs in the fillet which allows moisture.  The corrosion is certain in the presence of millivolts, moisture and dissemilar materials.

John

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)>

Seems like I recall someone recommending discarding the gasket and going for direct metal to metal.

Anyone doing that?  Why?

Bill Watson
(do not archive)

On 8/6/2012 11:19 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>


Does anyone have a good source for the cork gaskets used with the Comant CI 122 VHF Com antennas?  When I removed them from the old RV-8 fuselage, I must have put them in a very "safe" place and now I can't find them anywhere.  Guess they're pretty safe.  Anyway, I need to order a couple more but I checked the Chief, Pacific Coast Avionics, and ACS web pages and found the antennas but no references to just ordering the cork gaskets.

<http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf>http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf

Thanks for any tips...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

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At the airlines, we do Direct Metal to Metal to effect an improved groundplane. �We also treat the skin agains corrosion (Alodine), then Fillet seal the antenna flange to the skin for water-tight integrity. �The biggest failure is returning the aircraft to service too soon, pressurizing the cabin for passengers and getting blow-outs in the fillet which allows moisture. �The corrosion is certain in the presence of millivolts, moisture and dissemilar materials.

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I did mine exactly the way John describes. Somebody (can't remember who, but probably Stein) recommended this approach. I have had no problems in nearly four years.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

Recommend using the gasket.
Recall that the antenna needs an RF ground, not necessarily a DC ground. Using the gasket mitigates the corrosion aspects while still providing the needed RF ground.
Carl

On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:51 PM, John Cox <rv10pro(at)gmail.com (rv10pro(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]At the airlines, we do Direct Metal to Metal to effect an improved groundplane. We also treat the skin agains corrosion (Alodine), then Fillet seal the antenna flange to the skin for water-tight integrity. The biggest failure is returning the aircraft to service too soon, pressurizing the cabin for passengers and getting blow-outs in the fillet which allows moisture. The corrosion is certain in the presence of millivolts, moisture and dissemilar materials.

John

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com (Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com)>

Seems like I recall someone recommending discarding the gasket and going for direct metal to metal.

Anyone doing that? Why?

Bill Watson
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On 8/6/2012 11:19 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com (dralle(at)matronics.com)>


Does anyone have a good source for the cork gaskets used with the Comant CI 122 VHF Com antennas? When I removed them from the old RV-8 fuselage, I must have put them in a very "safe" place and now I can't find them anywhere. Guess they're pretty safe. Anyway, I need to order a couple more but I checked the Chief, Pacific Coast Avionics, and ACS web pages and found the antennas but no references to just ordering the cork gaskets.

<http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf>http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf

Thanks for any tips...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:22 pm    Post subject: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

The antenna has a gasket for a reason. The base of the antenna is more
than adequately grounded by the 3-4 screws that fasten it to the doubler.

On 8/7/2012 11:51 AM, John Cox wrote:
Quote:
At the airlines, we do Direct Metal to Metal to effect an improved
groundplane. We also treat the skin agains corrosion (Alodine), then
Fillet seal the antenna flange to the skin for water-tight integrity.
The biggest failure is returning the aircraft to service too soon,
pressurizing the cabin for passengers and getting blow-outs in the
fillet which allows moisture. The corrosion is certain in the
presence of millivolts, moisture and dissemilar materials.

John

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
<mailto:Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com>> wrote:


<Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com <mailto:Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com>>

Seems like I recall someone recommending discarding the gasket and
going for direct metal to metal.

Anyone doing that? Why?

Bill Watson
(do not archive)

On 8/6/2012 11:19 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:


<dralle(at)matronics.com <mailto:dralle(at)matronics.com>>
Does anyone have a good source for the cork gaskets used with
the Comant CI 122 VHF Com antennas? When I removed them from
the old RV-8 fuselage, I must have put them in a very "safe"
place and now I can't find them anywhere. Guess they're
pretty safe. Anyway, I need to order a couple more but I
checked the Chief, Pacific Coast Avionics, and ACS web pages
and found the antennas but no references to just ordering the
cork gaskets.

<http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf>http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf

Thanks for any tips...
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http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing
Mishap...

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Full Flyer Mode
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

My brand new Comant antenna came without any gasket. Here's the blurb from ACS:

"Comant Antennas no longer come with a gasket or template. Must order PN 09-00532 separately."

What arrived ended up looking a lot like proseal. I could have done that myself. Sad

Regards,
Jay

[quote="Matt Dralle"]Does anyone have a good source for the cork gaskets used with the Comant CI 122 VHF Com antennas? When I removed them from the old RV-8 fuselage, I must have put them in a very "safe" place and now I can't find them anywhere. Guess they're pretty safe. Anyway, I need to order a couple more but I checked the Chief, Pacific Coast Avionics, and ACS web pages and found the antennas but no references to just ordering the cork gaskets.

<http>http://www.cobham.com/media/9104/ci%20122%20data%20sheet.pdf

Thanks for any tips...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: Cork Gaskets For Comant CI122 VHF Antennas Reply with quote

I just installed a RA Miller AV-17 (bent belly mount VHF). It's a few
$$ cheaper than the equivalent Comant and still comes with a gasket. I
now have two on my belly.

What is the criteria people are using for the Comant over the RAM
equivalent?

Bill "just curious" Watson

On 8/8/2012 1:38 PM, hotwheels wrote:
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My brand new Comant antenna came without any gasket. Here's the blurb from ACS:

"Comant Antennas no longer come with a gasket or template. Must order PN 09-00532 separately."

What arrived ended up looking a lot like proseal. I could have done that myself. Sad

Regards,
Jay
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