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sunkuda
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 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:23 am Post subject: availability of replacement door |
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I had a door open in flight and am wondering if anyone knows of an available door...
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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:38 am Post subject: availability of replacement door |
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Which airplane? 2 or 4 seat? Did you try to find the door? Where are you located? The glass should still be available from Aircraft Windshield.
All you really need is an inner door skin which can be laid up and released from an existing door. The linkage and outer skin can be made from scratch.
Scott
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sunkuda
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: availability of replacement door |
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| sstearns2(at)yahoo.com wrote: | Which airplane? 2 or 4 seat? Did you try to find the door? Where are you located? The glass should still be available from Aircraft Windshield.
All you really need is an inner door skin which can be laid up and released from an existing door. The linkage and outer skin can be made from scratch.
Scott
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I had a door open in flight and am wondering if anyone knows of an available door...
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The airplane is a KIS 2 seater. The door didn't separate from the airplane, but is damaged and the clear plastic is broken.
I am in Sacramento, Ca
thanks for your response, Paul
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galinhdz(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: availability of replacement door |
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If the door is just damaged, you should be able to repair it with some fiberglass work. The repaired area will even be stronger than the rest of the door.
Do you have the Hendricks latching mechanism? I had a door open in flight on me on two different occasions and the Hendricks latch system with some minor modifications eliminated the problem completely.
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> Which airplane? 2 or 4 seat? Did you try to find the door? Where are you located? The glass should still be available from Aircraft Windshield.
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> All you really need is an inner door skin which can be laid up and released from an existing door. The linkage and outer skin can be made from scratch.
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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: availability of replacement door |
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I will actually be in Sacramento tonight for work. If you would like to bring it by the embassy suites hotel downtown around noon tommorrow I would be happy to look at it. Since you have the door it is repairable.
Otherwise just post pictures.
Cheers
Scott
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sstearns2(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Which airplane? 2 or 4 seat? Did you try to find the door? Where are you located? The glass should still be available from Aircraft Windshield.
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> All you really need is an inner door skin which can be laid up and released from an existing door. The linkage and outer skin can be made from scratch.
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mark_trickel
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:20 am Post subject: Re: availability of replacement door |
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Paul,
Sorry to learn of your door experience. That is amazing the door stayed attached to the airplane most TR-1 door openings ended with missing doors. The door opening in flight problem is not uncommon. At least 5 TR-1s (including yours and the original factory TR-1C), and 3 TR-4, have had doors open in flight. The original design with its spring loaded tapered latching pins do not always hit the mark, and when they do it is not the most secure arrangement. The Lyle Hendrick latch (still available, with a version used on many RVs) is a much better design, and features a more positive latch with straight pins mechanically pushed into place. Some builders have modified the design like Scott Sterns, his TR-1C features a single center latch holding system that is simple and very effective (Pics at Robert Reed’s website Google - Reed KIS).
Should you decide to repair the door frame, as Scott mentioned the window and all other KIS windows, TR-1, and TR-4, are still available from Aircraft Windshield Co. in Southern California (Ruth 562-430-8108). The cost for a side window is somewhere between $400 and $500 plus shipping. The windows are molded from 1/8 inch stock, available in clear, and light grey. I imagine the window frame is cracked at the hinges and at least two other spots around the frame. Even with limited composite experience the frame could be brought back to life.
As for other doors there are currently 3 TR-1s totaled out that I know of but your best bet would be the Huntington KIS extensively rebuilt by Larry David that crashed in 2006. The airplane was bought earlier this year by TR-1C owner Bruce Barton in Whitehall, AZ. He bought the airplane to get parts he needed to finish his airplane. There is a chance the door you need may be available. I must mention that the airplane was owned by a salvage company for many years and may have been stored outside. The window may not be serviceable. I believe Larry’s rebuild featured his own latch mods (see pics a Robert Reed’s website). Feel free to call Mr. Barton at 702-596-6860. I am sure he’d enjoy hearing from another KIS pilot.
I have you on KIS list as owning the TR-1 built by Jon Elissade, Powered by a Lycoming O-290. Is there any chance you know the serial number to the airplane?
Mark Trickel
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sunkuda
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: availability of replacement door |
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That info is correct. I bought the kis from Jon about 3 years ago. It is kit number 26..... Paul
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