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				 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a  circle. mpg | 
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				Looks like 2 of giant grumman glareshields put together 
 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 10:19:12 -0800
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 Subject: Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg
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 this is just ugly.  and, ugly doesn't work for me.
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  Check out this video on YouTube:
 
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a  circle. mpg | 
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				I saw something like unto that at OSH a dozen or more years ago.  The 
 wing was canted back rather than an oval in the same plane, such that 
 it was more of a canard design.  The fact that you don't see more of 
 such things clearly means that it isn't really better.  Wonder how 
 that fuselage would have flown if they'd just made it into a plain 
 old negative stagger bi-plane, rather than trying to make it have "no tips".
 
 This sort of thing has been proposed many times before, often by 
 those that should have known better....
 
 http://aero.stanford.edu/reports/nonplanarwings/ClosedSystems.html
 
 --Bob Steward
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  Climb out looked anemic.
 Design goes back to the '40's.
 The plane should go back to the scrap pile.
 The pilot should go back to the asylum.
 Just goes to prove sometimes you can fool Mother Nature and Physics.
 Barry
 
 this is just ugly.  and, ugly doesn't work for me.
 
 Check out this video on YouTube:
 
 <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6A1mSh0DB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6A1mSh0DB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
 Gary
 
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