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				Just an Aussie perspective on today.  Phew, what a relief!,,   
 
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      0. 12:19 AM - Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today!  (Matt Dralle)
      1. 10:19 AM - Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg  (Gary Vogt)
      2. 10:30 AM - Re: Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg  (Garner Rice)
      3. 11:12 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fw=3A_Le_Navion=2C_prototype_de_navire_=E0_effet_de_surfac?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?e_=28WIG=29?  (Gary Vogt)
      4. 12:03 PM - Re: Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg  (FLYaDIVE)
      5. 12:50 PM - Re: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg  (Bob Steward)
  
  
  
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  Time: 12:19:56 AM PST US
  From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
  Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make
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  ________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 10:19:37 AM PST US
  From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
  Subject: Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg
  
  this is just ugly. -and, ugly doesn't work for me.=0A=0A----- Forwarded M
  essage -----=0AFrom: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>=0ATo: Gary L Vogt 
  <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> =0ASent: Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:45 PM=0ASubject
  : An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg=0A =0ACheck out this v
  ideo on YouTube:=0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6A1mSh0DB8&feature
  =youtube_gdata_player=0A=0A=0AGary=0ASent from my iPad
  
  ________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 10:30:17 AM PST US
  From: Garner Rice <garnerrice(at)hotmail.com>
  Subject: RE: Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a  circle.
  mpg
  
  
  Looks like 2 of giant grumman glareshields put together 
  From: teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
  Subject: Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circl
  e. mpg
  
  this is just ugly.  and=2C ugly doesn't work for me.
       ----- Forwarded Message -----
   From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
  To: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> 
  Sent: Sunday=2C November 4=2C 2012 9:45 PM
  Subject: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg
  
  
  Check out this video on YouTube:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6A1mSh0DB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
  
  
  Gary
  Sent from my iPad
  
  
  
  
  
                          
  
  ________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 11:12:40 AM PST US
  From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
  Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fw=3A_Le_Navion=2C_prototype_de_navire_=E0_effet_de_surfac?=
  =?iso-8859-1?Q?e_=28WIG=29?
  
  This looks like fun=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message -----=0AFrom: Gary L Vogt 
  <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>=0ATo: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> =0ASent: 
  Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:34 PM=0ASubject: Le Navion, prototype de navire 
  =E0 effet de surface (WIG)=0A =0ACheck out this video on YouTube:=0A=0Ahttp
  ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9gAymroXKs&feature=youtube_gdata_player=0A
  =0A=0AGary=0ASent from my iPad
  
  ________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 12:03:10 PM PST US
  Subject: Re: Fw: An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a  circle.
  mpg
  From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com>
  
  Climb out looked anemic.
  Design goes back to the '40's.
  The plane should go back to the scrap pile.
  The pilot should go back to the asylum.
  
  Just goes to prove sometimes you can fool Mother Nature and Physics.
  
  
  Barry
  
  
  On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
  
 > this is just ugly.  and, ugly doesn't work for me.
 > 
 >  ----- Forwarded Message -----
 > *From:* Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
 > *To:* Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
 > *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2012 9:45 PM
 > *Subject:* An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a circle. mpg
 > 
 > Check out this video on YouTube:
 > 
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6A1mSh0DB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 > 
 > 
 > Gary
 > Sent from my iPad
 > 
 > 
 >  *
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  ________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 12:50:14 PM PST US
  From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>
  Subject: Re:  An oval closed wing plane. Flight on a  circle.
  mpg
  
  
  I saw something like unto that at OSH a dozen or more years ago.  The 
  wing was canted back rather than an oval in the same plane, such that 
  it was more of a canard design.  The fact that you don't see more of 
  such things clearly means that it isn't really better.  Wonder how 
  that fuselage would have flown if they'd just made it into a plain 
  old negative stagger bi-plane, rather than trying to make it have "no tips".
  
  This sort of thing has been proposed many times before, often by 
  those that should have known better....
  
  http://aero.stanford.edu/reports/nonplanarwings/ClosedSystems.html
  
  --Bob Steward
  
 > Climb out looked anemic.
 > Design goes back to the '40's.
 > The plane should go back to the scrap pile.
 > The pilot should go back to the asylum.
 > Just goes to prove sometimes you can fool Mother Nature and Physics.
 > Barry
 > 
 > this is just ugly.  and, ugly doesn't work for me.
 > 
 > Check out this video on YouTube:
 > 
 > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6A1mSh0DB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6A1mSh0DB8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 > 
 > Gary
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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